Tampa Bay Lightning at Colorado Avalanche game thread
by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 8:00 PM EST
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Hello? Is there an echo in here or is that just in my head? It’s so hard to tell sometimes.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 8:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No echo but you are shimmering
Or is that shimmying? Stop dancing, will you?
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh huh. You have some imagination there, John. Different states, and no webcams. So, who are you talking to again? It’s okay to listen to the voices in your head, just don’t answer them out loud in public when they ask you question.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
O........kay
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Technical issues
Folks, be advised that SB Nation has been having some load issues today. I (personally) am experiencing it now and that may also be effecting you if you attempt to participate in commenting tonight.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Don’t say it that way – you’ll scare off the lurkers!
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If that doesn’t scare off the lurkers, the conversations we have in here WILL! :-p :-)
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, before I forget, happy first night of Hanukkah!
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 8:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
James "Killer" Wright wrecks Pepsi Center
“Killer” broke a pane of glass at Pepsi Center during morning skate. The Lightning posted a picture on Twitter of it (well, more the pane than anything):
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 8:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Living up to the nickname, I see.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Warmups have begun at Soda Pop Palace
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 8:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s Colorado, so it’s pop. And they refer to it locally as The Can. (AKA, the Pepsi Center.)
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So?
I can’t call it waht I want?
Bah. Bah, I say!
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sheep? Where? I thought I’d heard some somewhere. Which reminds me…when in Colorado, pass on anything that’s called “Rocky Mountain Oysters”. They are most definitely NOT oysters of any sort.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Steven Stamkos will play tonight for the Lightning
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 8:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Malone is in, too. Not sure that’s a good idea – for either of them.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Apologies again for load issues
I was just on Mile High Hockey and it took me like 2 minutes just for the page to load. They really need to fix these issues.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Remind me to not leave this page tonight, ’kay?
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hello, how is everyone? (apart from page load issues)
Will try to stay for game depending on computer / internet and other interruptions
by Sidicus on Dec 11, 2009 9:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hey hey Jon
I’m ok, how are you? You’re at work on saturday?
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am pretty good thank you for asking. At home but trying to hook my computer through the TV so will make for interesting times.
by Sidicus on Dec 11, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve done that – computer and tv – good luck!
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hockey’s on, so we’re good. Well, I am, at least. How are you?
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hooray for hockey, as above, pretty good. Happy for it to be the weekend.
by Sidicus on Dec 11, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We're underway in Denver
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Marty piped one. Darn it.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
another massive opening start though. They've certainly played teh frist few seconds in Colorado's end
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Was there any official announcement about Blair Jones being recalled? I never saw anything.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Only saw it mentioned on a Facebook status.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Montreal got in trouble a few days ago for not reporting a call-up to the league, is why I asked.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Now you're both in trouble
The truth is here. lol
WB Philp
by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 9:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think you’re outnumbered. Slumming? ;o)
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's outnumbered for sure
how goes Bill?
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you guys blamed Tocchet for anything yet?
Posts hit? Off sides?
WB Philp
by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nope. But it’s early yet. We could make something up, I guess, but where’s the challenge with that?
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
An injured player starting instead of scratched.
Though blaming the coach for ego doesn’t do any good. But Tocchet should have said “You’re sitting” and rested his star.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Treat them like men
If they can go then let them play. Somehow, someone has to show leadership.
WB Philp
by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Leadership is not worsening an injury
That’s foolishness. Case in point – Mike Smith, 2008-09. “If you’re able to go, you’re going.” only made him worse.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's hockey not tennis!
WB Philp
by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Any player will downplay his/her injury in order to stay in the lineup. You can’t trust athletes to gauge their injuries – I should know because I totally did that, too. Look at the NFL and the players who deliberately choose to not report their concussions for that very reason – because they didn’t want to not play.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So you can shoot the puck well on an injured wrist?
Or is that something to blame Vinny for? Making injured wrists out to be something major?
Stamkos didn’t take shots during warmup. What is Stamkos’ job? Score goals. What is he going to do out on ice besides throw checks?
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He certainly hasn’t been able to win faceoffs, that’s for sure – ever since he jammed his wrist during practice a while back.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Evening everyone....
Sorry I’m late, was watching the Craps-Canes, uh, I mean, Caps-Canes….
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 9:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s all good. Not a lot has happened yet. Who won?
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ennui? ;)
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Freudian slip. Hey Tina, your slip is showing! ;o)
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL.... oops :)
After that last game thread we had, are you surprised?
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Too bad the men showed up to play on the game thread tonight. Where’s the Vancouver contingent?! Ryan’s got a test, but where’s Alix and Sha-Sha – our partners in crime?
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thought they might be in since it’s a bit of a later game. It’s early. Maybe they show up.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No one yet…. 3-2 caps in the 3rd.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who is your back-up if Smith is traded?
Riku? Tokarski?
WB Philp
by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 9:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Gotta see the deal for Smith first if it were to happen
Tokariski is getting the majority of starts in Norfolk, so you gotta assume that’s who the Bolts would recall. Helenius has more experience though. They lack another body to back up in Norfolk this season, the team would have to sign someone to back up the odd-man-out goalie still in norfolk.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still don’t completely get why they would trade Smith. He’s not a terrible goal tender, its just Nitty has been playing better this year.
Having said this, has Nitty had any shut-outs this year? I know Smith has.
by Sidicus on Dec 11, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on how the trade is structured. They could end up with another backup goaltender. You just never know what they’ll be trading for.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, hang on.... Did I miss something? are they LOOKING to trade Smith?
or is this just more stupid speculation like the annual “trade Lecavalier” crap?
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for reading our blog, Tina! ;o)
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry :) I haven’t had time to catch up on everything…. I was late getting home and haven’t had time to go back and read. I’ll do that tomorrow morning.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Via Twitter….
@erlendssontrib: RT @adater Another spotty crowd here CANADIAN MEDIA TRANSLATION – Time to move or contract them!!!
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Did you see Mirtle's post on Bolts attendance?
The comments were exactly that.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The one where he cites “Canadian teams” , “Non Canadien teams not in sunbelt” and “Sunbelt teams”?
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, there is a post today on the Lightning attendance fall off specifically
Some fools are generalizing – like we’ve stated. Others are actually aware of which market they are talking about (Tampa Bay) and the fact the city has shown it will support a teamt hat isn’t mismanaged.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
8-|
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mirtle got a lot of crap over this earlier today on Twitter. Tho he’s really not anti-Sunbelt hockey. He was just offering reasons for why the Canadian hockey media does that. And all kinds of people jumped all over him for it.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bottom line is win and they'll draw
WB Philp
by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what I keep saying.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can somebody explain WHY Stamkos and/or Malone is playing tonight? I’d have thought Stammer would be sitting it out, after taking that puck off his wrist bad enough to cut it…
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 9:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bad enough for Stamkos to get x-rays for, no less.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tocc is looking for leaders
WB Philp
by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They have leaders – let them lead. They need to have healthy players.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not steve downie and Paul Szczechura who Tocchet value above all
Or Blair Jones. Or David Hale.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The veterans and the guys wearing letters. If Tocchet is still looking for leaders then maybe he ought to try trusting the ones he’s got instead of trying to undermine them by encouraging others to take their places. Not that I think he has been, necessarily, but that’s the message a player gets in that situation.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tocchet is looking for clones
“Scrapy, dog the puck guys who go to the puck.”
A team of third liners isn’t about leadership. It’s about Tocchet seeing guys like himself – throwbacks to pre-lockout hockey.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow! Those guys are the leaders on a TEAM!
WB Philp
by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Weak comeback bill, try again.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you played? It is the truth!
WB Philp
by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have played, and it’s not.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It isn't?
How is it that many captains of great teams were rough and tumble guys that played hurt? Those are the guys that led on my teams in the syone age.
WB Philp
by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It ain’t the stone age anymore.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Like Wayne Gretzky? or Steve Yzerman?
Don’t exactly fit the “rough and tumble” model…
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree a little
Gretzky was the greatest ever and was obviously the choice for captain Stevie didn’t win until he became that type of player. He played through more severe, brutal injuries than anyone else on those teams.
WB Philp
by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gretzky was a sniper who didn’t hit and couldn’t play defense to save his life. He just hung around the net and potted in the loose pucks that other people worked hard to get to him. Yeah, he made some nice passes, but more often than not he was just hanging around the side of the net – not even out front.
The Great One was a fantastic goal scorer, but did little else – except whine to the referees constantly during any break in play.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like you’re describing Sidney Crosby…
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Crosby really reminds me of Gretzky – and not in a good way.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking of the "whiney" part
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Me, too. :oD
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Playing hurt when games matter is leadership. Playing hurt before games matter is dumb. All that does is take guys out of the games that matter.
A real leader picks their spots. Look at Konopka – he’s a natural-born leader. Sure, he fights a lot, but he’s very careful to make sure he doesn’t leave his team shorthanded when he does. But he’s doing what he can with the ability that he has, and he’s fully aware of that.
That doesn’t mean Lecavalier isn’t a leader. He’s a leader in a different way. Sure, he’s no Mark Messier, but he does what he can with the ability that he has – just like Konopka.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Being a leader is realizing that every game counts!
Before games matter? WTF? Please pick out the games on the schedule that don’t matter. I want a refund on those games.
WB Philp
by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Being a leader means doing anything you can for your team within the abilities that you have.
And not every game counts. Preseason? Games in October and November against the other Conference? Yeah, those don’t carry as much weight as division games in March.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Another weak comeback
What’s the truth? You think third line grinders are the team leaders? Lets trade 14 guys on the Lightning and call up the AHL team because they better fit Tocchet’s model — desperate to stay in the league?
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tocchets Model
I’m not agreeing to “tocchet’s model” whatever that is…but teams can’t win without that kind of player/leader.
WB Philp
by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes that kind of player is needed. All the good teams and great teams have/had them. But again, that doesn’t make them a leader either.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There is a whole lot more to it that just “dog the puck” and score goals…. That is important, but that’s just part of it.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Goal
Downie
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That’s a goal scorer. Don’t confuse the two.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Being one certainly does not qualify one to be the other too.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A guy with a track record of getting suspended for playing with too much emotion
For being reckless, for attacking his own teamates and savaging opponents, leading to being blacklisted by referees around the league?
“Scrappy” yes, “Leader” no. Not until he proves he’s grown up.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And the leaders are the guys who told him to chill the fudge out
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
regardless of differences
We’re all on the same side here, lets watch some hockey ok?
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No sooner do I say this
Than the 1st ends. Bah. Argue without me though. I’m in the thread but I’d rather watch the game.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry! Just hit a nerve! I'll be good from now on! :)
WB Philp
by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Debate's healthy
But I think we mostly missed the first because we got lost in debate.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We didn't have to reply, you know? ;-)
It takes two, my friend. It’s all good in the end.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If and when we have an open thread, we’ll let you know. ;o)
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting article, John.
About the potential Smith trade. Personally, I believe if Helenius and Tokarski keep developing they way they are in Norfolk, Smith’s days in Tampa are numbered. If he’s not gone at the trade deadline, then possibly over the summer. Don’t think Lawton will want to lose him as a UFA and not get something back.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 9:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's an interesting situation regardless
But one thing I did not mention in the piece si that the goalie market is saturated right now. Vokoun is supposedly available, as is Biron, and now Smith, and Legace… And others…
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is why I would be not so surprised for any trade to take place in the summer. When the market stabilizes (if you can ever consider the goalie market “stable”)
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, here’s what we’ve missed. The Lightning are up 1-0. Downie has the only goal, assisted by Lecavalier and St. Louis.
They’ve got the edge in shots 10-8; St. Louis and Szczechura each have two shots. The also have the lead in faceoffs, having won 53%; Wright is 2-0 (100%) while Lecavalier is 4-2 (67%) and Konopka is 2-1 (67%). The Lightning is being out-hit 7-6. Meszaros and Ohlund each have two turnovers.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 9:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedoruk’s blind pass giveaway was brutal
WB Philp
by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, for some reason the livescore I am looking at says there is still 8 minutes to go in the 1st. (must find better livescore)
by Sidicus on Dec 11, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Those lags are BRUTAL Jon
I’ve dealt with them before – it’s not a difference between continents, it’s just the software being slow to update.
You can’t get the 620 radio feed?
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I am used to the livescores being up to date, so a new one to me.
Have found the radio from the Tampa Bay Lightning website, so can hear whats happening from now on.
by Sidicus on Dec 11, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good afternoon to you Jonathon. This game is a bit later, are you still at work or have you finished for the day? (oh, wait, it’s already Saturday there, isn’t it?)
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And good evening to you. Yes Saturday so yay for not working in the weekend.
by Sidicus on Dec 11, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What is the time difference between you and us here on the East Coast of the US?
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
remember he's across the International date line, Tina
It’s afternoon/evening there while it’s night here. But he’s a day ahead.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Um… its 4pm at the moment, and 10pm over there so we are about 18 hours ahead I think.
by Sidicus on Dec 11, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And yes, I caught my booboo on that reply to that post that Kyle had, about trading Vinny. Should have been UFA not RFA… figured it out about the time I hit “post”….LOL…
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Game on
Lets see some hockey
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 10:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Lightning going on a PP here?
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sweet. Livescore has caught up with radio. To sound optimistic who will score the next Bolts goal?
Also how have the possibly injured Malone and Stamkos playing? Haven’t heard them mentioned much.
by Sidicus on Dec 11, 2009 10:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They haven’t played as much as they usually do…. Not sure how much shooting Stamkos can actually do with that injured wrist. It was the right one. The left one is the one he had jammed several weeks back in practice, so he may be playing double injured….
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know there has been a debate during the first period, and I am not trying to beat that dead horse, but if Stamkos is injured (or double injured) what are they thinking playing him? As many commentators seem to point out; … he’s only 19!
I thought teams would want to develop a future franchise all-star, not a future Forsberg.
by Sidicus on Dec 11, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nothing on that PP btw
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Lets of back and forth here but there seems to be more time spent ...
In the neutral zone or the Avs end than in the Lightning’s end. Though there was just a stoppage by a save from Niitty.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 10:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Did we drive Bill off?
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well, I did suggest we get back to the game
But no one is talking now. Maybe we should start debating agian? :-/
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know, it might just be that there’s been nothing all the remarkable (literally) about this period.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It has been rather tame so far.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not driven off that easily!
WB Philp
by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh good! I was going to have to feel bad if you’d left for good.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And typically there is more conversation going on
We’re not this lame :-p :-)
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Speak for yourself….
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It certainly isn’t as lively as the last game thread was. You missed the fun, John.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 10:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Killer seems to be having a pretty good game so far.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
So he broke a pane of glass at the morning skate, huh? Don’t know his own strength…. :)
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seems to be a theme with the team lately.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thought that was Mezzy’s job (to break panes of plexi)
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
‘Cause they can’t hit the net!
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by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So the TB announcers have been going on and on about the altitude and how they need to watch the length of their shifts, but it looks like their shifts have been about the same as usual. No wonder they’re slowing down. I’m sure the elevation is starting to get to them.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That’s where they better be careful in the 3rd. By the end of the game they’ll be sucking wind and running on fumes if they not careful.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The already are.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
’Cause their announcers and need something to talk about!
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by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And that should tell you how exciting this game is.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Radio is going on that the shifts are too long, because they can’t clear the puck… (and the more tired you are the harder it is to clear the puck.)
by Sidicus on Dec 11, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta remember this
Smaby paired with Walker. I never get defense pairings right on the lineup
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 10:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Defense pairings? They have defensive pairs? I though they just kinda swapped around for the whole game….
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think they mix those up even more than the offensive lines.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ohlund hurt?
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 10:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He was in a funny position when he got hit in the corner a few minutes ago.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He took an awkward/borderline hit.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OH MAN
Blew a two on one rush! Vinny and Marty going in on the net alone!
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 10:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It illustrated a problem I noticed from Tanguay
..in general. The guys are not passign fast enough when they do pass. You can’t get the goalie out of postion all the time by simply passing late. You need a laser in a dump off like that before the shot.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was Vinny and Downie. MSL came in late.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 10:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
stand corrected
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was a nice pass from Vinny off the rebound of his initial shot to Marty, tho.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just saw the replay. That was a nice pass….
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bolts don't want this end to end stuff!
The Aves teenagers will outskate them all over the ice
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by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 10:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Vinny’s gotta bury those shots… But the goalie did make a good save.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 10:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He was too close in to the goal to get any openings. He should’ve shot farther out.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
replay says...
He should have passed it back. downie had the open end of the net.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 10:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Remember this missed opportunity
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by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if I was lulled into submission or am losing concept of time
That period went quick.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 10:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yes it did. Don't think there were any penalties in that period, were there?
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There have only been two penalties all game – one for each team. Both in the first, I believe.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Unusual, for the Lightning anyway.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They’re going to slog thru the third period. It’s going to be ugly if they can’t shorten their shifts. And I don’t mean the score, either.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Very off topic but cross promotion
Buc’Em’s weekly caption contest is going on.
http://www.bucem.com/2009/12/10/1195039/bucem-weekly-caption-contest
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 10:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They didn’t have the usual 2nd period letdown in that one. But that 3rd is gonna be a killer if they don’t shorten the shifts….
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 10:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If Tanguay wasn't interviewed by Andy I wouldn't have noticed that he was playing tonight
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by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 10:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I know. Usually a guy plays better against his former team. But he’s been pretty quiet.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Stil 1-0 after two.
Shots are 17-14 Lightning; St. Louis and Szczechura each have three shots. The Lightning just barely have the edge in faceoffs, having won 51% of them; Lecavalier is dominating the faceoff circle winning 75% (9-3). They’re still out-hitting the Avs, now 13-10; Smaby has three hits. The Lightning have actually fewer turnovers than the Avs: 3-6, but one fewer steal as well: 6-7.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Cassie- you watching this game on Gamecenter Live on your computer?
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 10:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yes I am – why?
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just wondering if you were having issues with the screen freezing up. Mine is going thru this “start-stop-start back” routine for almost all of the intermission…
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope. Mine’s been fine. Maybe it’s your connection?
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Could be then. I may have to shut the ‘puter down and restart it and see if that help. I’m using a wireless router with my computer and there have been problems in the past but nothing recent.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Via Twitter:
@erlendssontrib BTW, Steven Stamkos not taking faceoffs tonight, which is not a surprise. He’s played 10:08 of ice time through two with one shot #NHL
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
3rd is underway...
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 10:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Meszaros sits – Lightning penalty. Avs PP.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Colorado PP
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 10:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ok...can't take this for the rest of the game...
I’m going to shut down and reboot and see if I can get a better connection. Back as soon as I can.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 10:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good luck!
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ok… all I am hearing is "save made Nitty… save made Nitty… save made Nitty… "
This is great, but maybe time to clear the puck?
by Sidicus on Dec 11, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I am with you there
I’m yelling at the TV “Get it out of the zone! Clear it!”
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
moments left in the PP
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They can’t be doing that on the PK. They’ve had problems clearing pucks out of their zone all season, tho.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Now they’re tired so they’re being sloppy. Downie to the box. Avalanche PP.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Downie's made careless errors like this early on too
Caps game, anyone?
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have some choice words to say about that. Two PK in a row not good… letting them back into the game.
by Sidicus on Dec 11, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At least they’re clearing the zone on that one.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Killed it
Now will they smarten up?
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ok. I am back. Seems to be working ok now…. fingers crossed… Weren’t they on a PK when I left too? WTH? starting the parade to the penalty box now?
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s starting to look that way, yeah.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And they’re breaking up the monotony by icing the puck periodically, too. This is just sloppy-tired thinking. Everyone needs to manage their shifts better.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Trying to do too much individually as usual. Compounded by the high altitude/thin air. NOT a good combination….
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lightning team kills off one and Niitty kills off one
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by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 11:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Niitty looks good tonight.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The team looks like it's out of gas
Waaaaaaay out of Gas….
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How is this team going to make it thru the next ten minutes? They looks spent. Thankfully, the Avs aren’t doing that well this game.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They’ve already used their time out.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was actually referring to all the icings and pucks out of play….
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And penalties?
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shots 9-1 in period!
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by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They just got their first shot on goal this period – halfway thru.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well remember 2 straight PKs and one was almost all of it in the Bolts zone.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It was just a matter of time with how this period has been played
Tie game
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dang, Nitty tends to play well enough for a Shutout but so far has let at least one in each game…
by Sidicus on Dec 11, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
…And there you go. The Avalanche score.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s under review, but it’ll probably stand.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Chief is such a homer!
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by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re just noticing this?
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a Lighting broadcast. He’s allowed.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know, that’s why I usually turn the sound off
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by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So have I – by far!
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely… Pittsburgh and Buffalo come to mind.
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by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Toronto
But that’s more than just sound.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pittsburgh for sure. Haven’t paid any attention to the Buffalo broadcast before. Dallas broadcasters can be pretty bad too at times.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody see the high stick on Mezzy that didn’t get seen before the goal was scored?
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I saw it, but it was off to the side of the net.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s all they need – for this to go to OT.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They certainly don’t need OT, but it might be a victory of sorts just to get it to OT…the way the game is going now…
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Moral victories are for losers
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by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but a point in the standings is an inch closer to playoff contention
And the Bolts have been way off the last ten games. 2 points here and then a slew of loses there.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, but I hope the players don’t play for a tie
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by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
With as poorly as they do in the shootout? I wouldn’t think so.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s sad when they have to depend on charity points to make playoffs, tho.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Keystone Kops Kollapse around the puck
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Seriously. All five guys were down around Niittymaki. How can you do anything with that? You can’t. They don’t need six goaltenders.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is Vinny playing in the third? lol
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by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 11:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think he’s been the best player on the ice all game – along with Niittymaki. He’s been setting up some nice plays, when he can.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't seen or heard much from him
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by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At least he's not taking stupid penalties.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Colorado’s had 18 shots in the period? That’s not right.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And the only nine scoring chances
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by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t be surprised. They’ve been pounding pretty hard in that period. Starting with those back to back PKs
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Guess what? It’s going to overtime. Nice.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yikes
If that was how they were playing with 5 men on ice, I hate to see what happens with 4.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who's your game winning goal scorer?
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by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 11:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is why I hate overtime
Now the Bolts will play for the tie
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by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't go with sudden death for logistics reasons
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What logistics? Their lack of scoring in SO’s? LOL
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think they have more shots in OT already than they did for the entire third. I wouldn’t call that playing for the tie.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Only had two to beat
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by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly my point.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Playing better in OT 4 on 4 than they did for most of the 3rd….
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Hey kittens
How is this Friday night/game treating you?
It's all hot bishes, naps, and dance parties
by Alix on Dec 11, 2009 11:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hey hey Alix
Deflated by altitude, like the rest of the Bolts
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, Alix! This has been a frustrating game so far. How are you?
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
any word from Ryan on the test?
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He started
writing at 7. Should be out about 9 I think.
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by Alix on Dec 11, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh goody. A shootout. Hooray. :o|
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
[Disclaimer: I actually like shootouts. Just don’t like the fact that there’s in this game.]
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just back from commercial, hang on
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who do you send as your shooters?
Lecavalier, Downie… ?
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
After those two, I’d flip a coin. Downie & Lecavalier have been the best players on the ice besides Niittymaki. Take the percentages after that, I guess.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I HATE SHOOTOUTS.
And not just because the Bolts aren’t good at them. I just hate shootouts.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Me too. Always have. Terrible way to end a hockey game
WB Philp
by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ANYTHING is better than a tie.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree. Just hate that shootouts are used to decide it.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
X Hejduk
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Colorado shooter: Miss
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wolski is the best at shootouts in history
WB Philp
by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 11:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
X Veilleux
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Veilleux: Miss.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
X Duchene
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Colorado: Miss.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
X vinny
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Lecavalier: Miss.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully
it will be a long one so Killer can try. Heh.
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by Alix on Dec 11, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You saw where Killer broke a pane of glass in morning skate didn’t you?
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Goal Denver
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Colorado: score.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
X Tangers. DEnver wins
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Tanguay: Miss. Colorado win the game.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well. There you go. Any thoughts?
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Deflated in the 3rd
Dunno if it was the water or the altitude but different team on ice for the 3rd.
Now here’s the question that will blow your minds: Would the Avs still have tied it if this game is at sea level?
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for the commentary … and first period debate. I think the bolts could have won this, but even still Nitty was the outstanding player of the game.
Well, i’m off so you all have a great evening.
by Sidicus on Dec 11, 2009 11:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Later, Jon. Thanks for joining us. Have a good rest of your day.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Take it easy Jon
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Danggggggggg!
Well good saying hello to y’all anyways :)
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by Alix on Dec 11, 2009 11:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Always. We’re back on on Sunday when they’re in Chicago.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They're PLAYERS just aren't good enough
Thanks for letting me in! Have a good night and an even better day tomorrow!
WB Philp
by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 11:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nice. Make a controversial statement and then leave before it can be debated. Later, Bill.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good. Because I wanted to disagree with you. :o)
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You're always allowed in Bill
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also
it’s their.
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by Alix on Dec 11, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Typing without thinking. Thanks for the correction
WB Philp
by LightningShout on Dec 11, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The players are fine. The coaches aren’t getting enough out of them, tho. If it were one or two players not doing well, then I could blame the individual players without reservation. But when it’s half of the team – the veteran half, I might add – then it’s no longer a player problem but a coaching problem.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And this is a continuation of the conversation we had last game. When are people going to realize it’s NOT Vinny. Or Marty. Or Alex. (although Alex needs to SHOOT more)…
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They have had their problems – definitely. But they are not the problem. There’s a difference.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And I think we’re probably preaching to the choir in this one… At least we all singing from the same hymnal….
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No – Bill completely disagrees and thinks it’s only a player problem. And that’s alright. Makes for an interesting discussion. :o)
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t have a schedule handy at this minute. What time is game Sunday?
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
7 pm Eastern
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cool. Guess I’ll be here then.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For all of the times that I’ve watched games played in Colorado – and there have been plenty since I sort of followed them when I lived on the West Coast – the Lightning in this game were by far the most affected by the altitude of anyone I’ve ever seen. And mostly because of ice time management – by both the players and the coaches. It was simply awful.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They practiced in Brandon yesterday
Could that also have played in? Having left late instead of early to adjust?
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It would’ve taken them 3-5 days to adjust. The time they left yesterday wouldn’t have made much of an impact. It was the length of their shifts that killed them. And a lot of that was because they weren’t able to clear the puck out of their zone when they needed to and they kept icing the puck for no reason.
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They were gassed pretty quickly. Can’t do those minute long shifts in that thin air. Takes a lot out of you for the rest of the game….
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not since right
before he walked in to the exam. Should hear from him soon though.
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by Alix on Dec 11, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Alix, btw
your cousin busted glass at Pepsi Center during practice. Scroll to the top fot he comments for the picture.
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All right, it's late
Bill, I’ll answer your email tomorrow, k?
I’m calling it a night on here…
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Night
guys!
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by Alix on Dec 11, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Night all.
Hope Ryan did well on his test.
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OK kids...
Weekend or not, it’s almost midnight. I’m struggling to stay awake, so I think I’ll just give it up and go to bed. Talk to you guys Sunday night….
by TB_hockey_fan on Dec 11, 2009 11:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
See you Tina
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by John Fontana on Dec 11, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, if you’re all going to go, then I guess I will, too. See you all on Sunday night!
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by Cassie McClellan on Dec 11, 2009 11:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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