And the third pick in the CLS Re-Draft is....
by Cassie McClellan on Jul 23, 2009 6:15 AM EDT
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PrintWith the third overall pick in the CLS 2009 NHL Re-Draft, the Tampa Bay Lightning will pick...Swedish goaltender Henrik Lundqvist
Oh, by the way, did I forget to mention that there's an NHL 10 simulation happening after we put our teams together? No? Well, there is. And I plan on winning it.
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UUUGGGHHH!
Not who I would have picked, but if he stays healthy, you won’t have any problems in the goalie categories. Malkin was the pick though! You gave a gift to the number four team. Was Brian Lawton making your pick for you? Maybe he was dazed and confused again.
WB Philp
That’s too bad that you’ve been sucked into the hype of picking a scoring forward. Besides, I’m not sure I would’ve take Malkin, anyways, had I gone that route. I want a winning team, not a team full of egos. Besides, I think having a “face of the franchise” is an overrated thing.
Cassie
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by Cassie McClellan on Jul 23, 2009 6:41 AM EDT up reply actions
So basically you decided to take a goalie regardless of if there were multiple players of more value available (which is the case here) and you seem to have a rather poor method of evaluating goalies as you didn’t get the best one out there.
When the Hockey News comes out with their top 50 player list, I dont expect to see Lundqvist in the top 20 and you took him third.
All in all a bad pick.
It all depends on how you define “value,” I suppose.
Cassie
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by Cassie McClellan on Jul 23, 2009 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I define player value within a team context, not necessarily by individual accomplishments.
Cassie
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by Cassie McClellan on Jul 23, 2009 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions
And in a team context (whatever that means) how is Lundqvist the third (or higher) most valuable player in the NHL today?
He certainly isn’t considered a candidate for the Hart Trophy – which is the player most valuable to his team. How is that consistent with your evaluation?
by PuckStopsHere on Jul 23, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve never said that he was the third best player in the NHL. All I’ve said is that he’s the best fit for what I was looking for in terms of team building and goaltending. Why do I have to take the third best player in the NHL?
Cassie
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by Cassie McClellan on Jul 23, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
You are building a team from scratch. There is nothing else to build around at this point. You are clearly passing over players who are better than Lundqvist becuase you think he fits well with the zero other players you have (I think it all comes down to the fact that you want a goalie and didn’t care there was no rational goalie to pick in position three).
If you are trying to build the best possible team (and you are right?) you cannot do it by avoiding the best players for an illogical idea about team building.
by PuckStopsHere on Jul 23, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re right – I did want a goalie first. That’s because I’ve got a pretty good idea of the kind of team that I want to build. I’m not just going to pick people at random; there is a method to my madness.
People may not agree with it, and that’s alright. It’s not as if we’re playing for money or any important. I have this idea of how a team should be, and I want to see if it’ll work like I think it should. And if I fall flat on my face doing it while people laugh and ridicule me, then I’m okay with that. At least I’ll have tried doing it my own way instead of doing it the way people expect me to.
Just because I’m not being conventional, that doesn’t make me an idiot, after all.
Cassie
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by Cassie McClellan on Jul 23, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Just because I’m not being conventional, that doesn’t make me an idiot, after all.
No you are not necessarily an idiot, but this pick makes me wonder.
You wanted one position. Nobody reasonable existed to pick who played that position, so you picked it anyway. And the player you picked at that position is not recognized as the best in that position by most (almost all? all?) people who know something about hockey.
by PuckStopsHere on Jul 23, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Ah. I see. Well, time will tell. This is only pick number one.
Cassie
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by Cassie McClellan on Jul 23, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Pick number one is where you grab your best player. And you chose not to do that. Not a good start.
by PuckStopsHere on Jul 23, 2009 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
If it had come down to Kovalchuk and Lundquist, then I see you point. A guy who just won art ross and conn smythe, trumps a goalie that hasnt reached SCF. We have seen even goalies like Osgood winning the cup.Also if you had taken Lidstrom, i wouldnt have been so critical.
It’s an entire team that makes it into playoffs. Not one guy. And that’s all this is so far. One guy.
Cassie
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by Cassie McClellan on Jul 23, 2009 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you're picking for the wrong kind of "Fantasy" hockey team!
You didn’t pick the dapper King Henrik based on fantasy hockey value…did you? You picked him based on your own personal fantasy rankings…didn’t you? I guess that’s why the homely Malkin wasn’t even in the running. (Just kidding!)
WB Philp
So much for being taken seriously….
Cassie
Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning Blog. It's what's for dinner.
by Cassie McClellan on Jul 23, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions
i’m on board with the lundqvist pick. if i’m a GM working within a tight salary cap, i don’t overpay for a goalie and i don’t give a goalie a longterm deal….UNLESS he is a bonafide top-tier goalie that can anchor my team for years to come. there are only so many brodeurs, roys, haseks. for me, lundqvist is that guy over luongo and over the older netminders (tim thomas, nabokov, kiprusoff). well played. now target a monster defenseman and a two-way center and you’ll be on your way.
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