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The future of Marty with the Tampa Bay Lightning

The sentiment from the Lightning faithful regarding Martin St. Louis (our pick for team MVP, and echoed by the St. Pete Times this morning) is that he is more important to the team than Vincent Lecavalier.  He's the heart and the soul of the club.  With one year left on his contract, he needs to be re-signed and the forgone conclusion is that it'll happen.

...but what if Marty doesn't like what he sees after this off-season?

The Lightning went into the tank three years ago.  The team has been gutted, rebuilt, mixed up, retooled...  And the losing has remained the same, the constant, the status-quo.

Martin St. Louis, like many fans, has grown tired of this.  Though I would not be surprised if a "clarification" comes out about what he really meant by this, it's hard to ignore the understandable impatience expressed to reporters:

"I want to be on a winning team," he said. "It's three years of this and (we're going) back to square one, so I want to be on a winning team. That's the biggest thing. I'm not getting any younger. We'll see how it all shakes out this summer."

Star-divide

As his 35th birthday looms on the horizon, the reality that his playing career will not go on forever is impossible to ignore.

Hockey has a long history of storied players being dealt from the franchise they made a name/career with, for a last shot at the glory of hoisting Lord Stanley's cup.  Marty may not be at his complete end (a la Ray Bourque, traded from the Bruins to the Colorado Avalanche for the final 2 seasons of his career), but as 2009-10 marked his 12th professional season...  It's not hard to realize the end of St. Louis' career is much closer than the beginning.

And what looms for the Lightning is as big a change as the franchise has ever had in a single off-season.  To reconstruct the brain-trust and the direction of the club -- off ice and in the locker room --  before camp opens in September.  

Deposed Lightning GM Brian Lawton gave a memorable quote in October 2009 regarding Marty's future (emphasis added by me):

"I think he's easily got another four good seasons in him. I get calls about him more than any other player we've got. People think we've got (Steven) Stamkos and maybe we're looking to go younger, but as far as I'm concerned, Marty will finish his career in Tampa Bay. He will be here as long as I'm here. Heck, he'll probably be here after I'm gone."

How the Bolts retool this off-season - the GM, the coach, and on the roster - will decide if Marty proves Lawton correct in suggesting that St. Louis would finish his career in Tampa.  

The Bolts rebooting, again, for the third straight off-season is frustrating.  For the dynamo that makes this team go, another long-term rebuilding process likely will not cut it.

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DON"T EVER TRADE MARTY!

Just waiting for the day Martin St. Louis flattens Zdeno Chara..

by Valkenburg26 on Apr 14, 2010 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

LIKE NEVER!

Just waiting for the day Martin St. Louis flattens Zdeno Chara..

by Valkenburg26 on Apr 14, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It'll never happen

He’s worth too much to the team. Everyone can say oh next season next season. We haven’t had an owner that has had this much dough EVER, this guy is for real about winning, this isn’t a toy to him, this is an investment. If the product(the team) doesn’t do well and perform it wont be worth anything, hence an investment.

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by Dustin Keene on Apr 14, 2010 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Two words for you: “salary” & “cap”.

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

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by Cassie McClellan on Apr 14, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

My two cents

I think the comment is most likely the product of the dismal three seasons and after a summer off to decompress he’ll be back and in full team commitment mode. Of course, if I’m the new Lightning management I’m listening to offers. Marty is a 25-30 goal guy at a relatively low cap/salary number.

We know the Lightning are in rebuilding mode and he could acquire an important piece to that process. Teams will be willing to part with top prospects or a top two defensemen to secure his scoring ability.

He is a class act and the heart and soul of this team, but let’s face it the team hasn’t been very good. Reuniting with Tortarella wouldn’t shock me, but I have a feeling he isn’t going anywhere.

by Lightningfan7609 on Apr 14, 2010 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Speaking as a Canuck fan...

…We happen to have one of the best goaltenders in the AHL right now.

http://www.moosehockey.com/roster/292/18

Dead cheap rookie, huge potential, well seasoned, and we’ve got a pretty good guy under a long-term contract right now.

We’ll have our guys talk to your guys, yes?

by Thursday on Apr 15, 2010 2:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Meh.

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Apr 15, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

no more young goaltenders…

by Lightningfan7609 on Apr 15, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry...

we got PLENTY of young goaltenders in tow right now.

I have come to a conclusion... Martin St Louis = waterbug on meth...

by TB_hockey_fan on Apr 16, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dang.

Well, I live in hope! There’s actually going to be a real glut of netminders in the coming year, so I don’t think any are going to move – just some free agent signings, and that’s about it. Won’t complain about keeping Schneider, though.

by Thursday on Apr 17, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have to sweat....

I want guys who put out the effort. Marty does, no question. You can see it on the ice. You can also see guys who don’t backcheck or hustle without the puck (#4). Marty is absolutely worth keeping.

There may be a salary cap, but how much were we under the cap?

by k_c on Apr 15, 2010 10:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Re-read the story

This goes for everyone. Marty’s quote isn’t suggesting the Lightning are shopping him, it’s suggesting Marty wants to be on a winner.and might consider pushing for a trade.

Martin St. Louis initiating trade talks.

I’m not trying to get on you K_c, it’s just the concept of “it’ll never happen” / “shouldn’t happen”. It’s not our call. It’s not the team’s call or the fans call (“Vinny before Marty! Grrr!”). It’s Marty’s call.

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Apr 15, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think the Lightning are shopping him either (after all I don’t think interim GM Tommy has the ability to make a deal), but other teams read the paper and if they think they can add him will be calling the Bolts. With the right deal to the right place I wouldn’t be surprised if the team approaches Marty with it.

Could you imagine a team like Washington or San Jose putting a package together for him? I think he’d think seriously about making the move and they would have enticing assets for Tampa Bay.

by Lightningfan7609 on Apr 15, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think 26 asking for a trade is the last resort. He’s trying to light a fire under the rookie owner to make solid, positive moves. We haven’t seen anything from Vinik yet except 2 press conferences, the two necessary firings, and a puzzling early season ticket deadline.

by Gobaby on Apr 15, 2010 11:35 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

What exactly else is there to do right now?

They can’t trade anyone or sign anyone… until after the season is over and July 1st for FA signings… Mr. Vinik is working on the first step, which is to get a CEO hired. He’s already said it’s more important to him to get it done right than get it done fast. Once the CEO is in place, then they get the coach and GM in there, it’ll be easier to get things done. Right now there’s not much the team CAN do…

I have come to a conclusion... Martin St Louis = waterbug on meth...

by TB_hockey_fan on Apr 16, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

And here's something...

you folks saying “Don’t trade Marty” need to remember (and NO, I don’t want them to either)… He has one more year left on his current contract. He can wait to sign any extension the Lightning might offer…. then if he’s not happy with the way things go this upcoming season, he can walk away UFA and not a dang thing anybody can do to stop it. If it’s truly not about the money but being on a winner, it won’t matter what kind of fat contract you throw at him, he can still walk away. And before anybody thinks I’m suggesting it’s the money for MSL, NO I AM NOT.

Now, do I think that’ll happen? Right now, no. But let the Bolts have another dismal season like they did the last 3 years, then, yes, I could see MSL walk away….much as I’d hate to see it. I don’t blame him for wanting to play on a winning team. Anybody that is a longtime Lightning fan can see how much losing grates on MSL. It will remain to be seen what the new ownership group does this off-season.

But by the same token IF (and that is a BIG if) MSL does ask for a trade, then we as his fans need to understand the motivation behind it and be glad we’ve had him as long as we have.

I have come to a conclusion... Martin St Louis = waterbug on meth...

by TB_hockey_fan on Apr 16, 2010 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

We in Van managed to get our stars on board with taking a bit less money than they could get elsewhere (or letting them walk – still missing Ohlund, but…) to keep the team together. If you have more than a couple contracts coming up, perhaps Marty could pitch that approach to his teammates. Gonna be tough to convince Lecavalier to give money back, though!

by Thursday on Apr 17, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bince can't give money back

No re-negotiating of contracts. The NHLPA didn’t want it in the latest CBA.

Marty took a paycut with his current deal. This was the contract he signed after his Award winning campaign of 2003-2004. It’s not ultimately going to be about the money (unless he wants a payday that he thinks he is owed — I don’t get that sense from him — but about the winning.

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Apr 17, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

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