Tuesday night open thread and link dump
by John Fontana on Jun 22, 2010 7:30 PM EDT
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Lightning News
Nolan Whyte returns from a vacation and ponders the looming off-season. [Frozen Sheets ]
Vinny's a happy daddy [Tampabay.com]
Times Palace gets a little cosmetic surgery [Tampa Bay Lightning]
Tim Thomas, Tampa Bay? [Lightning Strikes]
Kurtis Foster would like to be re-signed by the Lightning. [The Guardian]
And let me stress this: Keep up with Bolt Prospects in the coming days regarding the NHL Draft. We'll be covering it here at Raw Charge, but BP are the experts in this field. Pete, Timothy and Chad have what you want; Pete, Timothy and Chad have what you need...
Hockey news
Anticipation of the coming storm in Panthers country [Litter Box Cats]
...and the first shot has been fired: Nathan Horton to Boston. Bolts fans rejoice! [Litter Box Cats]
Dino Cicarelli was named to the Hockey Hall of Fame, along with Angela James and Cammie Granato [TSN]
Tom Renney in, Pat Quinn out as Head Coach of the Oilers [Crash The Crease]
Scott Niedermayer calling it a career [TSN]
Halak's Hockey Horoscopes [MYFO]
Our friend Su has a hockey survival guide for the off-season (sorta) [Daily Su]
Turtlenecks. How many will $5 Million a year buy? [Four Habs Fans]
News you can use
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Oooh…where to begin? Today was a busy, busy day! Will there be anything left for the opening day of the draft?
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 7:33 PM EDT reply actions
Hey Hey Hey
excited to join the open thread this evening. how’s everyone feeling?
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by KyleGuthrie4 on Jun 22, 2010 7:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Good. How are things with you, Kyle? Very nice Nino post, by the way.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I am swell Cassie, thank you for asking. and thank you for the Nino comment. looks like you’ve been pretty busy here as well huh? getting ready for the draft?
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by KyleGuthrie4 on Jun 22, 2010 7:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
John’s going to the draft, but I’m not. I’ve got a family wedding to go to in Pennsylvania this weekend.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
stressed. Been packing and gathering stuff all day for the trip.
"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.
by John Fontana on Jun 22, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
So any thoughts about all of the hockey-related goings on today?
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 7:40 PM EDT reply actions
Why did SJ turn Nabakov loose early?
"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.
by John Fontana on Jun 22, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Salary cap issues, I believe.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Are Smitty's days numbered in Tampa?
I still think it’s up in the air at this point.
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by KyleGuthrie4 on Jun 22, 2010 7:43 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
That’s my take on it. Nothing has been ironed out.
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by John Fontana on Jun 22, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it’ll be a wait-and-see approach. He’ll be traded if someone’s interested and willing to make a good deal, but if not, then they’ll keep him around and see what happens.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
How’s everyone’s summer? Did this thing post on Twitter (meaning news that the open thread was… well… open?
"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.
Yep. I RT’d it. The problem is two things. First, the NHL Awards are on tonight. Second, everyone’s still trying to process everything that happened today. It was a hockey-packed day!
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and still figuring out the NHL schedule, of course. Can’t forget that.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought the awards were tomorrow?
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by John Fontana on Jun 22, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh. Maybe. It’s all sort of a blur right now. And, yes, I’m sober. :oD
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
pretty good
a little boring with no hockey on but it’s okay. just looking forward to the draft :)
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by KyleGuthrie4 on Jun 22, 2010 7:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Does the Horton trade effect the Panthers pick?
Will they go forward instead of defense in teh draft without Horton being on the roster?
"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.
Okay, this might be a dumb question, but was Horton a defenseman?
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
wasn't aware of it
where did they send him?
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by KyleGuthrie4 on Jun 22, 2010 7:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Horts and (RFA) Campbell to BOS for 15th overall, Dennis Wideman, 3rd rounder in 2011
by Donny Rivette on Jun 22, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you think about that trade, Donny?
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s all about two things: ridding the FLA roster of an unmotivated but talented forward, and gaining the 15th pick on Friday.
FLA now has 5 picks of the first 50.
by Donny Rivette on Jun 22, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Dang. Better hope that your scouts really are that good. Otherwise, that’d be a huge waste of opportunity.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah…still not sure about that Tallon guy. Seems rather green.
by Donny Rivette on Jun 22, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
If the scouts are the same, it almost doesn’t even matter who the GM is.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
The scouting staff has been pretty sharp over the past four years or so.
by Donny Rivette on Jun 22, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
So you guys should be okay then. :o)
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
In essence, I’m satisfied. Gotta give to get, and Horton was never going to be anything more than what he’s been…at least in Sunrise.
by Donny Rivette on Jun 22, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Horton didn’t pass the Tallon smell-test.
by Donny Rivette on Jun 22, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d read that Tallon said Horton asked to go. So if anything, Tallon didn’t pass the Horton smell test.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Correct. In actuality, all players were given the option and Horts claimed he wasn’t sure. Hence outtahere via Tallon.
by Donny Rivette on Jun 22, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
So...
Got the “Salute to Dale Tallon for shipping out Bolt-killer Nathan Horton” parade route mapped out yet?
Did you say…map? :oD
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Thought you’d respond to that one, Cassie ;)
by Donny Rivette on Jun 22, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Happy to not disappoint you, Donny!
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
So Edmonton’s now without a coach? Anyone read anything about that?
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 7:58 PM EDT reply actions
No, they have a coch. Tom Renney
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by John Fontana on Jun 22, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah…but who will it be in November???
by Donny Rivette on Jun 22, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Kevin Lowe. jk
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by KyleGuthrie4 on Jun 22, 2010 8:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m sort of surprised that he hasn’t jumped in on the coaching thing.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
but Tom Renney was promoted to head coach while Quinn took a front office job
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by KyleGuthrie4 on Jun 22, 2010 8:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
John’s got pre-draft jitters – don’t mind him.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you going to LA, Donny?
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Not this time around. It’ll be Martinis and Open Threads from Duffy’s in Lauderdale.
by Donny Rivette on Jun 22, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Cool. I’m not, either. I’ll be doing the family thing in PA.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Was at the 94 draft in Hartford. Only one for me so far.
by Donny Rivette on Jun 22, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
What’s the drill here for Friday? Top secret goings-on or have you gone public?
by Donny Rivette on Jun 22, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea. I’m completely out of the loop on this one. I won’t be around.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I won’t even be around for my own radio show – that’s how far out of the loop I really am.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
actually I have a too-heavy backpack and a suitcase I need to repack
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by John Fontana on Jun 22, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Alrighty.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
So, Kyle, what do you think about this new head coach, Boucher?
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:07 PM EDT reply actions
Maybe I’ve been left all alone? Again? How so not at all surprising…. :o\
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
nope. I’m here. just was away for a second. lol
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by KyleGuthrie4 on Jun 22, 2010 8:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think they made the right decision. bring in a new, young guy, instead of hiring a seasoned veteran of the old guard. he’s got a good system from what I hear. I am a little skeptical, only because last year was his one and only year in the AHL. but I think he is a good chance to take on a head coach. plus I can just call him Bobby Boucher now :D
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by KyleGuthrie4 on Jun 22, 2010 8:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I just like the fact that he has a masters in sports psychology. :o)
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I like that alot too
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by KyleGuthrie4 on Jun 22, 2010 8:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Anyone have any thoughts about the Hockey Hall of Fame inductees? (Or am I opening up a can of worms with this one?)
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:13 PM EDT reply actions
Not really….
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by John Fontana on Jun 22, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
hoped Andy would get in. good for Dino though :)
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by KyleGuthrie4 on Jun 22, 2010 8:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
See any Lightning trades happening at the draft this weekend?
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:23 PM EDT reply actions
If anything, the talk has been “move up from third round into the second” via trade.
But with this goalie talk, I’d think anything is on the table.
"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.
by John Fontana on Jun 22, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
So you think they’ll keep that 6th overall pick then?
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. He wants to build long term — not quick fix. And if he wants more draft picks… well, that sorta goes counter to letting scouts run the draft (which he implied earlier this month)
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by John Fontana on Jun 22, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s true. I was thinking about the goalie situation. I should’ve been thinking about Yzerman instead.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah. I don’t see them trading it. anything is possible though
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by KyleGuthrie4 on Jun 22, 2010 8:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m not expecting anything really. maybe a few changes in draft picks, if that. who knows? maybe Stevey Y will have a few tricks up his sleeves.
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by KyleGuthrie4 on Jun 22, 2010 8:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, with the roulette wheel spinning with NHL transactions, we may both be in for a surprise.
"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.
by John Fontana on Jun 22, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
The TB regional hub goes live tonight at http://tampabay.sbnation.com
I’ll be contributing over there in the future.
"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.
Lightning stuff only? Or baseball and football, too?
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Breaking news really. Not in depth stuff…
"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.
by John Fontana on Jun 22, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Mentioned this to Cassie on Twitter...
but the story about Stamkos in Vegas made me feel very old. Someone asked him how he was at the craps table and he had to remind them that he isn’t allowed on the casino floor because he doesn’t turn 21 until February.
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by Jamie DeVriend on Jun 22, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
He was born the year before I graduated high school – how’s that for feeling old?
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
His first time in Florida was when he was 3…. or younger. I was still in Middle school
"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.
by John Fontana on Jun 22, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey hey
That story gives me a chuckle… It’s stuff like that which always has me curious hwo the players are accomplishing this stuff while under-age. Sometimes it’s beer, other times it’s stuff like this.
"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.
by John Fontana on Jun 22, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
kind of off topic
but, anybody still shocked about the Halak trade or has that worn off?
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by KyleGuthrie4 on Jun 22, 2010 8:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
never off topic to talk league wide stuff here
I’m shocked, but it has worn off… The Habs really sort of sold him short too…. I think they could have gotten more in trade.
"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.
by John Fontana on Jun 22, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
How to feel better about your team's draft history
Since 1990, the Vancouver Canucks have drafted 18 goalies. They’ve played a combined 43 NHL games.
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And I was there when they went thru something like seven of them in one season, too.
There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
UUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
Hi Ryan.
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by John Fontana on Jun 22, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Sup!
My connection’s going to drop any minute, but I thought I’d say hi.
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by Ryan Classic on Jun 22, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Appreciate you dropping in.
Pitty the connection is going south for the Summer :(
"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.
by John Fontana on Jun 22, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Blame Starbucks. They're brutal. At least security is good.
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by Ryan Classic on Jun 22, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
My connection isn’t the best right now, either. Keep fading in and out. The thunderstorm overhead doesn’t help much, either.
There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I read this and immediately cracked up. sorry, but it was very comical.
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by KyleGuthrie4 on Jun 22, 2010 8:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And on that note, I’m going to wander. Thanks for stopping in, everyone! Hope to see you next week. Same Bat-time, same Bat-channel.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 22, 2010 8:46 PM EDT reply actions
I need to amscray too. I have a trip to finish packing for. Talk to you all later.
"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.
by John Fontana on Jun 22, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
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