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Tuesday night link dump and open thread

Welcome to the doldrums...  The venerable dog days of summer where hockey does not seem to exist but in our own recollections.

Lightning links

  • Paul Ranger.  Jon Jordan thinks that, after ten months, it's time for a resolution on his future playing status [Hockey Independent]
  • If you haven't been paying attention, "Yzermania" is sweeping the hockey world with thanks to his good start as GM in TB [Puck Daddy]
  • In another depth move, the Lightning have signed forward Mike Angelidis to a two-way contract [Bolt Prospects]
  • A video interview of Tod Leiweke by Lightning TV personality Rick Peckham [Lightning Video]
  • Are the Bolts a new NHL powerhouse?  For fantasy hockey owners, it would certainly appear so [The Hockey Writers]
  • Crime does not pay [Don't Trade Vinny]
  • This is a little old now but I chuckled...  A fitting Photoshop of Marty [nhLOL]
  • Curious about additions and subtractions for the Bolts this off-season (so far)?  Check the Lined-Up Update.  Not comprehensive but close enough for government work
  • Are you following Raw Charge on Twitter?

Star-divide

Hockey links

  • The Phoenix Coyotes ownership saga continues. [Sportsnet]
  • Not all Detroit Red Wings fans are excited about the reports that Mike Modano will be playing for the club [One Minute of Play]
  • Instead of spreading out ice rinks, how about stacking them on top of each other?  A Toronto suburb is pitching this concept in a new facility. [The Star]
  • Chris Gratton may be playing in Britain next season for the Edinburgh Capitals [British Ice Hockey]
  • Are you a pro athlete and intrigued by Twitter?  Wanna know how it's done?  Here's your guide right here [Down Goes Brown]
  • The Chicago Blackhawks walked away from Antti Niemi's arbitration award...  It begs the question just how much Niemi is really worth [From the Rink]
  • Back-to-back games are a challenge for any team.  That being said, Dirk Hoag takes a look at the 10 toughest back-to-back game sets that are forthcoming in the 2010-11 season [On The Forecheck]

General links

  • How come Asian players who join MLB get interpreters, but Latin-American players don't?  Ozzie Guillen set off a firestorm asking this question.  The New York Mets stand behind him, though. [New York Times]
  • The World Cup took place this summer in South Africa, the US is trying to bring the Cup to the US in 2018 or 2022...  And Tampa wants to be one of the cities that host games.  Sign up to show your support.  [Go USA Bid]
  • "America's best sports fans" -- a flawed list by Forbes.com seeing they include a very Canadian team in their American list [Forbes]
  • Hard to imagine that, a year ago, we were lamenting the passing of the Tampa Bay Storm and Arena Football [Raw Charge]
  • For those using Twitter, Clark Brooks offers a list of people to follow (players, fans, media) if you're a Tampa Bay Rays fan [SB Nation Tampa Bay]
  • Buc'em has been replaced by Bucs Nation.  It'll always be Buc'em to me. [Bucs Nation]
  • Speaking of the Bucs, Craig T gives his team preview for the 2010 Buccaneers [SB Nation / NFL]
  • For Tampa Bay residents, don't forget to vote in Creative Loafing's 2010 Best of the Bay poll [Creative Loafing]
Here's a final thought for hose who read down this far -- are here any Tampa Ba Lightning blogs that you know of that aren't covered in our Boltosphere (Lightning blogroll)?  Mention it in comments.

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Good evening ladies and gentlemen

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Howdy-hi, neighbors!

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

You borrowed my wheelbarrow again and didn’t return it.

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also have your power saw, too.

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yo yo yo. DTV is here!

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

How goes the #DTVDatewatch?

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

All too active… all too active..

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think I should start advertising my availability on Twitter, too?

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

We need to find a hashtag that rolls off the tongue first.

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I’m afraid – but in a good way. Maybe.

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gooooooooooooood evening. Wonder if anyone else comes in to celebrate the fact?

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously. Where’s the hockey harem?

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh?

There’s a chick you’d expect to be here because I’m here? Tina?

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tina, Cassie, Sha-Sha, Meredith…

You know, I attract so many women staff, but my #jpfdeucedatewatch has lasted longer than your date watch

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, Sha-Sha. I miss thee.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

She’s having her Naional Lampoons European Vacation

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully she brings me something nice.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re just so popular, John! That’s why most of the writing staff here are women. I’m no longer good enough. sniff!

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya know… you guys could just end each other’s date watches….

Grabs battle helmet, prepares for the worst

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kevin’s not my type… Oh wait, you mean… Oh, never mind.

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, i’ve already got another John i’ve got to deal with…

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blorgy! Now I know why hockey bloggers don’t usually pick up on me. Got it. Thanks!

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would like to extricate myself from that stereotype, please.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay. If you feel that you must. But I give that to you grudgingly. Tho, I think Mirtle has the last say in that.

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was waiting for that comment. And you didn’t disappoint. Thanks, DTV!

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, I do what I can.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the #KevinSellathambyDatewatch has lasted longer than your date watch

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol… I pimped it on Twitter. We shall see. Speaking of pimping, thanks again!

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

NP. Good work.

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you sir. Big help from Laura at Active Stick.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Burton said that he was coming. That liar!

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s only a few minutes late! Probably stopped off to pick up some beer.

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should’ve asked him to get some beer for me then

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spectacular! So it’s good for you then, huh?

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, quality purchase. Kind of like Steve Yzerman.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

So are you going to need a cigarette after this?

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate the NHL’s offseason schedule. They front load everything and now there is a moth of nothing.

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

MONTH, not MOTH

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s kind of like how Gary Bettman’s decision making happens

A quick burst, then a whole lot of nothing.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Men are like that. I mean…. Wait. What?

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wowzers.

Looks like I’m not the only comedian here tonight.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, you all walked right into that one. I can’t resist that perfect of a set up. Besides, I’m outnumbered – which might not be a bad thing, now that I’m thinking about it. :oD

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you’re THAT type of girl….

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

That depends on the day, I think.

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

So tuesdays are the days when you make jokes?

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, Tuesdays are when she’s into the group thing.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

My rule is one guy per team.

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh oh… one of us is out, Johnny.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can still stay :)

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait – isn’t this a hockey open thread?

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not into a group thing

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no. I always make jokes. I like to think I’m funny. Or, at least, funny looking. So laugh when you think it’s appropriate. :oD

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

So…about this hockey thing….

Everyone have the games they’re going to all picked out?

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope, it’ll be on an as-it-happens basis

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly the Lightning do not come around my parts this season. I may make a trip to Tampa though.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

All the choices for games i’ve got will probably end very badly.

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

For who, exactly?

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me. two closest arenas to Peterborough are Scotiabank place (dump) and Air Canada Center (full of Leafs fans Drunks)

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buildings don’t matter as long as the site lines are good. And the teams are worth watching, of course.

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m only there for the Devils. Would be sweet if I catch Volchenkov’s first game in Ottawa as a Devil.

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel your pain. I’m near DC, but I do have more options if I want to drive: Caps, Canes, Pens, and Flyers are all within 5 hours of me.

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flyers… wow, that’s just bad. Other teams nearby include the Habs and Sabres (though i’d have to bring a passport)

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wachovia (Wells-Fargo?) is actually a nice arena. A little generic, perhaps, but not so bad. And Flyers fans have never hassled me – but I don’t wear jerseys or team stuff to games, either. I haven’t been down to Raleigh yet, and I want to try to hit the All-Star Game, if I can. Never did get to Mellon, tho, and I wanted to.

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where does Niemi wind up? KHL?

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

That wouldn’t surprise me. That would be a big marketing thing. He could get more money there than here.

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a possibility. He’s already won a cup, he can just sign a contract with the KHL and be set for life.

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are the Lightnign set on depth?

Or do they need to sign more bodies? I don’t think Yzerman is looking at big names to fill any role.

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Hi MIke, nice to see you

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The real question is, why does he keep signing centers?

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really. I mean, I realize that it’s easier to move a center to wing than the reverse. But there can’t be such a dirth of wingers out there that he’s only collecting centermen.

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It could be worse, you could keep signing Left Wingers

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very true. Is that what the Devils are doing these days?

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Waiting on an arbitration case to be settled… over a left winger…

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh really?

I hadn’t heard anything about it.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d like to see a Dominic Moore level LW signed.

After that, he’s set to just worry about finding the hottest Lightning Girls available.

And hook me up with one.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

That whole Moore signing worries me. I don’t know why. I just don’t like it – gut feeling.

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leafs fans making fun of your team for having Dominic Moore on it?

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Afraid you’ll get too attached only to see him leave at the trade deadline?

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised...

Moore gives the TBL a dynamic 3rd pivot on the cheap.

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

No – it’s the fact that he’s Steve Moore’s brother, I think.

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

“guilt” by association huh.

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

…you point the finger at me again/I wanna run away/Never say goodbye…

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah Linkin Park…

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Showing my age.

Or are they still a big act? I really wouldn’t know.

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never really liked their new album. After Meteora they just never sounded the same

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you really expect a music band to sound all the same throughout a decade? Oh please… You might not like their new music but that’s how it is. Things develop, and the art is no exception. Linkin Park have grown up, developed and that’s much better than having 5 ‘Hybrid Theories’. I’ve been their fan since their first album… and I’ll stay faithful and loyal. Because I truly like what they do.

I love the Lightning AND the Flyers... go ahead, preach me!
Dare to follow my childish, biased, petty and cheesy alter ego.
American Cheese, B!tch! ... #1 mission? Kill Holmgren.

by Katchis on Aug 4, 2010 5:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was really just an addition to the scouting staff more so than our third line. Dude has in depth reports of every team in the East. Since he’s played for all of them.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

In case you missed it, there is a fanpost in the sidebar by Fat Tony talking abotu defense:

http://www.rawcharge.com/2010/8/3/1603512/fat-tonys-defensive-depth-chart-tbl

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Seguin signs. $3.75 million cap hit.

If he sticks in Beantown, of course. Whatever shall Peter Chiarelli do?

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I read about this somewhere.

I wonder…? :-)

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hah.

I actually got an email from a Quebecois Bruins fan the other day. He apparently stumbled across the piece and felt compelled to politely inform me that the Bruins cap woes were a pretty much a figment of my imagination.

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Call Brian Burke and ask for help.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shoot a Bruin so he goes off the cap?

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t you mean Cap a Bruin? No, wait, that’s what got them into this mess…

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why are you bringing the Caps into this, anyway?

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or just have Zdeno Chara take a untimely slapshot at Tim Thomas in practice.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly, his cap hit will still remain due to his 35+ contract

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh right. Well, I guess Chara could just take a slapshot at himself.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay – not so surprising that I’m bringing this up, but I’m gonna. Do you think Forsberg will play in the NHL this season?

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes. Probably going to do a deadline thing again.

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forsberg? In Tampa Bay? I think my head would explode. :o\

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless he gets hurt tying his skates again.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sadly, that’s very possible.

There's nothing quite like the sound of a frozen puck hitting the glass. It makes me happy.

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community.

by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope. Not unless he really seems to have it all together in Sweden and the Scouts are impressed.

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Impressing the scouts isn’t a problem – he’s already impressed him. He’d get a contract just because he is who he is. No, it’s his foot that’s the problem – that won’t let him accept any contracts thrown at him. Tho, with the time off that he’s had, he’d probably hold up fairly well for a season or two. Assuming his foot lets him.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

How-deeeeee, overlords, plebes, and miscreants. How goes it?

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Konitchee-Wah

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by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hola Senor Cristo.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why hello there, minion. ;o)

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watch out, or I’ll change your avatar! Muahaha.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can all change each other’s avatars!

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quiet, you!

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even then, none of the avatar changes will be as epic as Travis Hair changing Kavel’s avatar.

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, you did say “overlord”. And since I was the only woman here, I naturally thought you meant me. Sorry – natural mistake. ;o)

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I…I have no comeback. You are correct.

/bows

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see that you’re an intelligent and enlightened man. ;o)

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lets just say I have a heightened sense of self-preservation.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I only make men cry on special occasions. Don’t worry. You’re safe. :oD

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

But…but I thought the Raw Charge open thread was a special occasion, Cassie! Have I been deceived?!

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

WAZZAP!

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

JERSEY SHORE IS BETTER THAN THE SIMPSONS.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

^inside joke

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worst part was they watched it and took it so seriously. I wanted to shoot myself.

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Howdy do, Merry Q

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by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aww man, I just used my “WAZZAPPP” Gif for Chris..

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hi, Meredith!

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some/one of you are from the Seattle area, no?

I believe Cassie is. Anybody with an idea of how the Canucks will address their logjam on D? How does Salo’s injury affect the gameplan?

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

They’ll ship Bieksa somewhere.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re installing padded walls and floors in the Canucks locker room. Should be done before the start of preseason.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but Salo still has to put on his gear. And actually skate.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want a padded room. I think that’d be fun. For a while, anyways.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on the usage of said room.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought they were going to try and make Salo into Inspector Gadget?

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m grew up there, but I live in Virginia now. Lots of teams need D, so I don’t think that’s going to be a problem for them. Salo’s freak injury might screw things up a bit, tho. Speaking of freak injuries, does he think he’s a baseball player or something?

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally unrelated...

I wish Phil Esposito was my Dad. Seriously.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:25 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

When I listen to the radio broadcasts he does, he really reminds me of my dad.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He reminds me of the movie Grumpy Old Men.

And I love that.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

A million miles from hockey

bah, bumhug

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by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

So how are we going to traverse the last month of this hockey desert?

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve got your backs, no worried.

#RidiculousDTVStuff

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

And by worried, I mean worries.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meredith...

You’re awfully quiet, and personally, I’m not okay with that.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

ha sorry! i am multi-tasking, as usual. sitting in on my friend’s blogging class.

by Meredith Qualls on Aug 3, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re lurking!

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta split. Bad weather coming through. Will be back.

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by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

“YOU CALL THIS A STORM????!!! BLOW YOU SOB, BLOOWWWWWWW!!!”

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hi! total newb to this site just showing up…. @DontTradeVinny got me here…

by Down Goes Spezza on Aug 3, 2010 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Hi, DGS! Welcome. What hockey new have you to share?

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I write a hockey blog called Down Goes Spezza, www.downgoesspezza.blogspot.com Dont Trade Vinny is a huge fan…

by Down Goes Spezza on Aug 3, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

And by fan, he means mentor.

Kidding.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t worry, we won’t make fun of you for being a flyers fan SBNation N00b

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

and I won’t make fun of you for being a Jays fan…

by Down Goes Spezza on Aug 3, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I root for worse teams (Raptors, Toronto). Being a Jays fan is nothing compared to that.

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, Ouch…yeah that…is possibly an issue

by Down Goes Spezza on Aug 3, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh well. At least I can go and make fun of Chris Bosh and LOLBron James on Twitter and be bitter about my basketball team being absolute balls

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, my NBA team is kinda hard to make fun of…the Lakers are awesome, but only because I went to school with Andrew Bynum

by Down Goes Spezza on Aug 3, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went to the same highschool as Kevin Weekes and Lightning draft pick Michael Zador. Too bad Zador was friends with some fat [expletive] who talks smack and noone likes.

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, now that John’s gone….

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Continue…

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"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was hoping someone else would. Tho, I think he’s still lurking around here somewhere.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone else think that the whole Kovalchuk thing will end in up court? (Yes – I said Kovalchuk. Wanna make something of it?)

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

You know the statement “The House always wins”? I have a feeling that the NHL will win because of that logic.

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s going to get messy, one way or the other.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

court? really? do these things take that route?

by Meredith Qualls on Aug 3, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

They can, if it gets ugly enough.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It probably will be.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t remember. It sounds right, tho.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never heard of it.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

DTV, Vinny Lecavalier is NOT God….he has done some evil things in his life…

by Down Goes Spezza on Aug 3, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t lie to make friends.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Vinny DID own Jarome Iginla in a fight, so he’s pretty cool in my book

by Down Goes Spezza on Aug 3, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're talking about the Finals bout?

Vinny goaded Jerome into that one. I think even Vinny would admit that, at best, it was a draw.

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hello

Hey guys, DTV told me to follow so I did. The Bolts Beat guys seem to be very passively hinting that the Bolts may be interested in Fedotenko. How do you think he’d be back in Tampa?

by Chris Thornburg on Aug 3, 2010 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

He is what he is.

He could probably approach 30 points (15 and 15) in the role he’d play here along w/ a little PP time.

Not the greatest skater but he can forecheck.

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d be down for Fedo’s return. Welcome, by the way.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think most would.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

It pains me to see him in a Pens sweater.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks. I like Fedo, and it appears obvious that Stevie’s still not done, but I think the fanbase is still really looking for someone to hug and call George (a fighter), and it doesn’t look like we get Asham. I’ve been to Lightning games since the Cup every year, and there is always a strong contingency for Roy, Arty, and then Knoppers, regardless of their point performance. I just think it’ll be interesting to see the team without a defined ‘protector’ or ‘fighter’ that the community seems to be so used to seeing.

by Chris Thornburg on Aug 3, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree, but..

Vinny, Downie, Malone can all handle themselves in that regard. Just not heavyweights.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

TBL Mt. Puckmore. Your choices. I’ve got MSL, Vinny, Andreychuk, and nobody. Aaaaaaaaaaand go.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Marty, Vinny, Andreychuk, Stamkos

by Down Goes Spezza on Aug 3, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny because Fisch just put up a post about the Devils mt. Puckmore

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I’ll just hop over there and look. Arnott better be on there. ;)

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought you hated Arnott?

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

With the C on his chest, sure I did. He did good things for us, though, which I’ve owned up to since he left :p.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the Devils, I’d go Marty, Stevens, Elias, and Lou.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly the same. Though John had Dr. Mcmullen on his though just because he was the whole reason the New Jersey Devils existed.

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

But my picks: MSL, Vinny, Andreychuk and Yzerman. Too much jedi awesomeness

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yzerman already? That doesn’t speak well for the history of the team, does it.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I threw out Manon Rheaume as an option – but then, I would.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

…who?

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

…Seriously?

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

JOKES CASSIE.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh huh. Sure it was. :oÞ

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

First female to play in the NHL

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only female to ever get an on-ice NHL contract.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Female goalie.

Played one period of an exhibition game in their inaugural year. Publicity stunt.

No offense, ladies.

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vinny, Marty, Manon Rheaume, Phil Esposito.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought about putting Rick Tocchet in there. But then I went and read my blog.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s probably a good thing.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vinny, Marty, Brad Richards, Brian Bradley

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re back! Hooray! I mean…it’s about time. What took you so long?

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Traffic.

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by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you’ve got to watch out for those roundabouts. They’ll really screw you up if you’re not careful.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oooh, I forgot about Brad Richards.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

2004 Stanley Cup Conn Smythe winner.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Richie and Brian Bradley over Espo, eh? Wow.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we’re going founding-fathers, it would have to be Esp, Terry Crisp, Wayne Cashman and Steve Otto.

And I don’t like that one bit.

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by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d for the Crisp mention.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

The stipulations were not limited; it could be a mix of players, coaches, management.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Art Williams. I don’t think of him as a joke like others do… He saved this franchise.

"Seen Cincuenta" -- 04.10.10 -- Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saw Devils and Bolts Mt. Puck more, so how about the Flyers:

I got

Clarke, Parent, Hextall, Gagne

by Down Goes Spezza on Aug 3, 2010 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Ryan Parent? He’s been a Predator twice man, probably not a good idea…

;)

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bernie Parent, the goalie for the Cup winning teams

by Down Goes Spezza on Aug 3, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as it’s Bernie Parent, not Ryan then it’s good.

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHAT’S WRONG WITH RYAN PARENT?!

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh you know, the fact that he’s a Dman equivalant of ToskaLOL

by Down Goes Spezza on Aug 3, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t rain on my parade, here!!!!1

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

You forgot Paul Holmgren.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a player, probably, as a head coach, possibly, as a GM, no fucking way

by Down Goes Spezza on Aug 3, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, no – he goes on the Lightning’s Mt. Puckmore. Duh.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Rec’d like the Flyers blue line

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watch out, heard Pronger’s elbows are still active…

by Down Goes Spezza on Aug 3, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

And so’s Lou’s throwing arm!

In Lou We Trust: The system hates us, man.
"Pfft, Wii’s where it’s at. *Swings toy plastic racquet, separates shoulder"- RudyKelly

by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jelly has been banned in the NHL

by Down Goes Spezza on Aug 3, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

So they aren’t doing canning classes anymore?

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that surgery he had today was to insert steel plates in those bad boys.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just remember that Lindros can’t be on there.

The mountain would not support his head.

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by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t the blasting and chiseling would give him a concussion?

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

by the way, DTV knows already, but I have a post coming out tomorrow on the latest in Stevie Wars with Revenge of the Flyers

by Down Goes Spezza on Aug 3, 2010 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Stevie Yoda in his fight with Darth Holmgren?

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

you are sir. and without your help the DGS SUper Spies wouldn’t have learned the thing we did…

by Down Goes Spezza on Aug 3, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m the real DTV!

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

throws jar of jelly at your head THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE! DTV

by Down Goes Spezza on Aug 3, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

So does this mean i’m throwing elbows now?

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, yeah, I was just being silly.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

BRB guys...

I’ve gotta go take a Tocchet.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Your gambling? Oh, a Tocchet, never mind.

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by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not gambling, it’s Gaming!

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

heard the odds are, the Browns are going to the Super Bowl….

by Down Goes Spezza on Aug 3, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Chances are they’ll have more rings than LeBron has.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, man that’s… LOL!

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by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

This thread is really going down the drain now.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

You keep saying that after my comments like it’s meaningful somehow.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was amazed that you managed to continue the bathroom related jokes (or something like that)

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

How little you guys know me….

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, actually that was my reaction to the Tocchet I just took.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever you do, don’t feed it biddle.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd!

+1

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by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

So whatever became of Rick Wilson?

Interviewed w/ Minnesota for a position as an assistant. Was he offered the job?

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Was Hedman overplayed last season? Over used?

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by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Playing a rookie over 25 minutes a game for the first month or two of the season? Heck yeah, I think he was over played. And ill-used, too, since they put him on the wrong side and kept him there for far too long.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, TBL fans, a hockey question: can Steven Stamkos realistically score 50 again next year?

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think so. I think he’ll get to 40, but probably not 50.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends. You don’t realistically go into any season with the expectations that your forwards are going to put up 50 goals

I don’t think so. Boucher will want to spread the offense out.

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by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s possible, considering he’ll probably end up with Marty on his wing again, but just not likely.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

So are rookie head coaches that split up Marty and Vinny after years and years of being on the same line.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somehow, I think their bromance will survive. It’s alright. Really.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK. That’s what I was thinking, as well – plus other teams are going to have figured something out to stop your one offensive play.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's he got?

Anyone wanna take a stab at what Yzerman has got on Holmgren? Dirty pics? Favors? Something much more creative?

by Chris Thornburg on Aug 3, 2010 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

The powers of the Jedi. surely you read my blog.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

In all honesty, I’m just starting to, but I did hear that he was rivaling Yoda, not just a normal Jedi.

by Chris Thornburg on Aug 3, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, better late than never.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

GHood timing. He took advantage of Paul on Gagne… It’s the Meszaros trade that really invokes the Jedi Mindtricks type of discussion.

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by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. Why did Holmgren take Meszaros? He was a decent enough defenseman, I suppose, but he has a weighty contract.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought for sure Holmgren getting Meszaros meant the end of Coburn’s tenure in PHI.

Delighted to be wrong.

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

DGS, take a breath man. We can see your head steaming from here.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

DGS is a dirty Flyers fan?

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t speak for his hygiene, but he is a Flyers fan.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn’t say stuff as dumb as other Flyers fans

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven’t even read Philly articles that justify that move. I think the math after Mezzy + Walker vs. Gagne has the Flyers still taking on like a tenth of a million per year as opposed to dropping any salary.

by Chris Thornburg on Aug 3, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, does the outpouring for us to get Niemi make anyone else want to play in traffic, or is it just me?

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Some of the Niemi suggestions have been delusional. Washington, Tampa, and Toronto are most certainly NOT viable solutions.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say KHL or the Flyers.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flyers would have to trade someone important.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hence the Toskala to the Flyers rumor has legs! #Icanonlyhopethiswillhappen

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Talk to PPP to give it some fur, too.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

PPP seems more like someone who’d give it a torso, and Chemmy would probably give it a funny looking head.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

That and teams aren’t going to give a goalie with one year’s experience behind an amazing defense alot of money. Especially if your defense sucks

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

To Niemi's credit...

There were nights he was the reason that stacked team was in the game. The kid has serious talent but, yeah, it’d be hard to justify handing him a starting gig at big $.

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fairly strong on Twitter.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve only seen it in the form of JJ trying to push people away from the idea, but he’s been pretty hard on dissing the idea since he hit the market.

by Chris Thornburg on Aug 3, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, I played devil's advocate on Twitter

to Jon Jordan.

I don’t think you can dismiss the idea as “crazy” but I don’t think SY is or should go after Niemi.

I wouldn’t be upset if he did, either.

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had at least one fan tell me to make a deal with Antti / ditch smith via Twitter.

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by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, to that person's credit...

That IS how it would go down. If it happened.

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some dumbass said to trade Vinny and Smith for Niemi.

FIRST OF ALL. Trading the franchise’s all time leading scorer for a goalie with 42 career games is easily the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.

Second of all. Niemi would have to be property of someone to trade with.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t like the knee-jerk reactions. “Goalie on the market! Ditch Smith!”

I think if Yzerman had so little faith in Smith, he’d already be gone.

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by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

That said...

is Niemi-Ellis a better tandem than Ellis-Smith?

I think so but I think the Lightning can survive the latter duo.

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Smith’s head issues are cleared up, I think Smith-Ellis is better.

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by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big ‘if’.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ellis might help, tho. Apparently, he and Smith are buddies. So that’s something as well.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honest, really just trying to figure this aspect of the game out question: How does that help if the goalies are buddies? They don’t play on the ice at the same time, so it’s not like they can create chemistry together. The most I could see is just swapping advice, which would seem like common practice among all goalies in the league.

by Chris Thornburg on Aug 3, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

They can push each other in a way that other goalie tandems may not. Guys being guys, they’ll compete with each other and share advice. That may not happen with two goalies that don’t know each other well and are seeing each other as competition for a job.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a lot of on-ice technique and ability that Ellis can’t help with camaraderie.

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 4, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

REALLY!?!?!

Are you including intangibles, like…$ saved? Or are you saying on a talent basis?

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huge if, but it might work. Maybe they’ll hold Smitty from playing until he absolutely has to that first stint of the season, just to give him more time to clear his head. Alot of Smitty’s problem last year (at least from the games that I went to) was that the defense would collapse as the opposition charged the crease and their forwards would normally crash Smitty in the head in some kind of tackle maneuver.

by Chris Thornburg on Aug 3, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Smith also has a hard time with breakaways.

Especially shootouts. His woes there are well documented.

Gotta give Niemi the edge there. He was statistically the best goalie in the shootout. That was all him.

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awfully small sample size.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s all we have to work with at present.

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

That will come down to defense, I think.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

People think Yzerman’s a miracle worker. Or something. But even the Force has limits.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually they think Yzerman is Oren Koules/Len Barrie/Brian Lawton. That’s how it’s felt. Impulsive, great-on-paper-move, and they keep expecting more moves like that.

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by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

MMMMMM HMMMMMMMMMM.

You are on it, Mr. Fontana.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are on it, Mr. Fontana.

That’s what she said.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

BRB, I need to find out WHO SHE IS!

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by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, I hear ya.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Make sure she’s got a hot, freaky, single friend.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember

Pics or it never happened

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and see if she has a hot brother, too.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m right here.

/crickets

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh? You have a sister that knows John? ;o)

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t ruin the joke! GOSH. :p

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry. :oD

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are we still keeping track of TWSSes?

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keeping up with the Joneses.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

that one was CB (1) from DTV (1) at 9/8:17.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

First TWSS on Raw Charge!

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 3, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still, there’s also the salary cap to take into consideration. How much was the arbitration award for? $2.75 million?

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Irrelevant.

I mean, Niemi’s agent can cite that all he wants but the market will determine his value. He may very well be forced to accept a deal less than $2.75m to stay in the NHL. Or the Islanders could sign him to a 15-year deal @ $4.5m per…

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok

You were saying the salary cap, not the arbitration award comes into effect.

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not just you. I don’t see how this made any sense. I’m not sold on the Ellis/Smitty tandem (although my Nashville friends like Ellis alot despite him losing his job to Rinne), but there’s no reason to sign Niemi with Tok so close to NHL-readyness.

by Chris Thornburg on Aug 3, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tokarski’s still another year or two away from the NHL. And Yzerman wants to take his time with prospects, too. So who knows how much time that will add on to Tic’s time in the minors.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bottom line is...

And bear with me while I’m actually serious for a moment….

He doesn’t fit the mold at all. Every player that Yzerman has signed/acquired is proven to work hard, and almost all of them have a professional, respectable demeanor.

Niemi is young, unproven, and awfully quiet. And right wrong or otherwise negitively perceived by some because of the arbitration deal.

Will not be a Bolt.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, he's a cancer because...

…he opted to exercise his right to arbitration? Or because he was offered a multi-year deal and his agent turned him down?

Also, do you have reason to believe he doesn’t work hard or does not have a professional and respectable demeanor?

I think I get where you were going, but I don’t know where the connection was made.

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 3, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never said he was a cancer, said he didn’t fit the mold.

Every guy Yzerman has signed so far has taken less money than last year or market value. That translates. Niemi thinking he’s worth $3mil+ after 42 games is awfully arrogant.

by Matt Amos on Aug 3, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, I read too much into the “negatively perceived” comment but I’m still not sure he doesn’t fit the mold based on the criteria you set forth.

Niemi COULD fit into the mold of Yzeman’s recent signings if he took a short-term deal (max of 2 years) at less than his arb. award (which he may have to if he wants to stick in the NHL).

Also, there is nothing inherently arrogant about Niemi’s decision to elect arbitration. That’s your value judgment. It’s a business. Chicago’s management got the franchise into the cap situation it was it. That wasn’t Niemi’s fault. He’s 27 years old and had every right to elect arbitration and seek compensation that his agent believed he could command. Obviously the Hjalmarsson offer-sheet put a wrinkle in the ‘Hawks plans and things haven’t panned out the way Niemi’s camp hoped, but you shouldn’t begrudge the player for the process.

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 4, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

All this said...

I’m not even advocating the Lightning sign the guy.

I just feel obligated to provide a counterpoint to:

a) Signing Niemi doesn’t make sense
b) Niemi only won because of the team he’s on
c) Smith’s less of a gamble

by Michael Gallimore on Aug 4, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone else having lag issues?

Storm is getting worse here so I may disappear.

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by John Fontana on Aug 3, 2010 9:20 PM EDT reply actions  

No lag here.

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by Chris Burton on Aug 3, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m going to go here in a few myself. I need my beauty sleep.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same old – and I mean very old – connection problems here with me, so I can’t tell you for sure one way or another.

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by Cassie McClellan on Aug 3, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply