Was the Tampa Bay Lightning trade for D Eric Brewer a good idea?
The Tampa Bay Lightning traded defensive prospect Brock Beukeboom and a third round pick to the St. Louis Blues for their captain, defenseman Eric Brewer. Plenty of the Lightning faithful are pretty please by this move. Me, not so much.
It isn't trading Beukeboom that's an issue for me. He's apparently still recovering from his second concussion this season in junior hockey, and at 18 years old, that can't be a good thing. Reportedly, he hasn't had that great a season outside of that, either.
The third round draft pick sort of hurts. I hate giving up that potential talent. But I've heard from a few people that this year's draft is very thin on talent. So, perhaps, that's not so great a loss after all.
And there's no question that the Lightning need a little help on defense. Mike Lundin has quietly become the cornerstone on which the Lightning defense has rested upon. Now that he's out of the lineup, there's a big gaping hole to fill. So, in that regard, acquiring Brewer was a good idea.
Brewer's stats are better this season than Lundin's are, so perhaps it's not a bad trade. However, how is his foot speed? One of Lundin's biggest assets is his smooth skating style. Admittedly, I haven't seen Brewer play all that much, so I have no idea how he skates.
Foot speed is really the issue here when it comes to defensemen and Lightning head coach Guy Boucher's 1-3-1 system of play. The guys who have struggled with playing in this system the most tend to be the ones who aren't very quick. And not knowing much about Brewer, that makes me nervous.
On Twitter, apparently Brewer is either considered great or slow. There doesn't seem to be a general consensus on the guy. And that also makes me nervous.
Add to that that he's 31 years old, is making $4.5 million (pro-rated for the Lightning) this season, and is a -107 in his career doesn't really help inspire confidence, either.
However, the one redeeming quality that I know of right now is that he was St. Louis's team captain. And you can never have too much leadership in the locker room or on the ice. So I'm taking a wait and see approach with the new guy. I'm cautiously optimistic, but I think I'll reserve judgment on GM Steve Yzerman's move until I see him play a few games first.
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Not a bad deal
I like the move.
A 3rd round pick is a crap shoot. Look at the Lightning’s history and you won’t find too many impact players drafted in that round (other than Brad Richards, and if you want to talk physical impacts -Evgeny Artyukhin)
Brewer brings experience and a booming shot from the point. As far as his skating ability the hockey news says he has “good lateral movement” for whatever that’s worth. He should eat up minutes and provide a physical presence on the ice.
They aren’t committed to him past this year and if he’s not a fit they can let him go in free agency. From glancing at Bolts Prospects list the other day it seems Beukeboom had regressed a bit this year as well.
Vinik and Yzerman continue to show that they are committed to win this year.
by Lightningfan7609 on Feb 18, 2011 6:10 PM EST reply actions
+1
Anybody that will take on that little turd is OK by me too.
Trouble on the ice? Wait! Andre Roy could fix it!!
by Tina Robinson on Feb 22, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
For what it’s worth I’m on board…
Blue Shirt banter did a statistical analysis of trade targets for the Rangers that included Brewer. Granted thats the Rangers, but the article compared guys who are thought to be on the trading block so it’s a fair comparison against who is available and Brewer came out looking pretty good
http://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2011/2/18/2000407/rangers-analysis-the-defensemen-rumors
Also yes Beukeboom is considered a prospect, he himself was a 3rd round pick and was considered a project at that.
So in the end we have a 31 year old rental for 2 3rd round draft picks, with one of those draft picks having a crappy year, who may be rental, but whose cap hit could be squeezed into the future without hurting our ability to resign Stamkos and Hedman. a number of guys are RFA and UFA and will be looking for raise as well.
http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=28
And if you want to go prospect pipe instead, we have a number of highly rated prospects coming along too…
http://www.boltprospects.com/prospects
That’s a good deal for Tampa. BrewBot has his is known for is decisive lack of leadership and voice, so much that he’s considered a robot by some. He’s a solid player IMO and will help the lightening. Plus blues got something in return rather than just not resigning him at the end of the year. he’s been having a good season actually, hopefully he will continue it in Tampa!
Huge move by Yzerman
Brewer is a high quality addition to the locker room and on the ice. He plays a more physical style than any of our D but Ohlund and Smaby yet can handle the puck and play the point on the power play. Averages 1.44 hits per game and 1.57 blocked shots per game. He will stick up for his teammates and has Stanley Cup Final experience. While I hate to see Beukoboom dealt, we do have good defensive depth in the system and there were about 8 players ahead of him on the minor league depth chart.
Don in St Pete
The Fact Blues Fans are Split
Should be enough to tell you he’s iffy as a player.
As a fan of the Bluenotes, I personally don’t care for him. He came to STL as part of the deal that sent Pronger to Edmonton, so I may be holding that against him. I hope he does well fe the Bolts—but I’m not holding my breath.
Good or Bad?
We’ll find out soon enough. Personally, I’m all for it. The Lightning didn’t lose a player from it’s current roster to make this deal. What they lost was a young prospect who has already had concussion issues. Early concussions don’t speak well for that players future. Neither do concussions experienced later in a players career. (see Mike Smith)
3rd rounder? We can discuss that player 6 years from now. I doubt that picks name will come up in any future discussions of NHL players. It might, but I doubt it.
Trades are funny things. Each is overly evaluated. We are fans, it’s what we do. Two years from now this will be a killer move, or just another minor deal that didn’t pan out. Hard to say what we will think of this in the future. Hind sight is always very clear. It’s my opinion that this move has helped the Lightning in several areas.
What the Lightning have acquired is a veteran who was the captain of his team. Adding character isn’t a bad thing is it? Adding a quality veteran player to a team in desperate need of defensive help is a good thing. How the future shakes out is another story. Until then I’ll ride with the author of this story.
“So I’m taking a wait and see approach with the new guy. I’m cautiously optimistic, but I think I’ll reserve judgment on GM Steve Yzerman’s move until I see him play a few games first.”
Ditto!! At this point, I’m all for the trade. However, there’s no doubt we will revisit this deal in a few weeks. It’s what we do.
We’ll talk later!
Soooo
To sum up this article, basically
1. You don’t know a lot about Beukeboom.
2. You don’t know a whole lot about this years draft.
3. You think Lundin is the cornerstone of the Lightning D.
This deal is a good one for the lightning. Brewer is a former all star and olympic gold medalist. He brings good size and leadership ability and a nice shot from the point. To say Lundin is a cornerstone is laughable. He’s a third pairing D man at best with very little offensive upside. Giving up a third rounder and a kid with concussion issues before he gets out of his teens is a very small price to pay even if Brewer turns out to be a bust.
That was the point of my post – I’m not sure that this is a good trade mostly because I don’t know enough. I’m not one to blindly think any trade is good. And I’m not one to think that any trade is bad, either. I’m looking for more concrete information.
The ways of Jedi Master Yzerman are not the ways of others.
Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community. Follow me on Twitter: @dagmar27.
by Cassie McClellan on Feb 19, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
And if you don’t know much about Brewer at all I don’t know how you can reach a conclusion on if this is a good trade or not. Brewer is a lot like Ohlund IMO.
That’s exactly my point. I haven’t reached a conclusion because I don’t know enough. See my response to Wing19 above.
The ways of Jedi Master Yzerman are not the ways of others.
Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community. Follow me on Twitter: @dagmar27.
by Cassie McClellan on Feb 19, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
i just hope they dont put brewer and ohlund together. talk about slow 0_O
i think they need to make a move for a forward. we need depth up there. you see what happens when anyone gets injured.
Me being a Blues fan i think we got shafted
Brewer is having a steller year and we go and trade his a$$ for a couple of prospects. Come on!!!! Well treat Brew-bot well and hope he helps.


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