Grin and Bear It: The Boston Bruins "Attack Ad" and How Lightning Fans Should React
"Who Has Better Fans?" is one of the most inane debates in all of sports. It's an utterly unwinnable argument, which means it's not worth fighting in the first place, but it's guaranteed to get people fired up so it's a staple of most sports talk radio programs and quite a few blogs.
And that's fine; there is a certain amount of guilty pleasure and satisfaction that comes from arguing for the sake of arguing. But it's important to try to retain a sense of perspective.
The basic argument usually follows this standard template:- (Your city here) is terrible because the fans stink.
- Oh yeah? Well at least we don't/didn't (insert reference to specific incident{s} of bad behavior here)
- That's because you don't (insert statistical comparison, accurate and verifiable or completely made-up, of the two cities home game attendance here).
- We have great fans, it's just that (insert excuse, valid or otherwise, for not selling out every home game)
- You people are stupid.
- No, you're stupid.
- Lather, rinse, repeat
There are variations and it can go on much longer (much, much, much longer) but you get the basic idea. If you find yourself engaged in one of these battles, your opponent will try to convince you that in their city, everybody wears team jerseys to work and that their morning commute takes forever because everyone spends so much time high-fiving each other. Don't buy into that for a minute. With the possible exception of Green Bay, Wisconsin, there is no sports team's market populated that densely with diehards. In fact, aside from Green Bay and Philadelphia (which is ineligible for inclusion because many of those who attend sporting events there can't legally be classifed as human beings), every place is more or less the same; comprised of roughly the same impossible-to-measure percentages of fanatics and frontrunners.
Which brings us to the Boston Bruins so-called "attack ad" aimed against fans of the Tampa Bay Lightning that was unveiled just prior to the Eastern Conference Finals. If you're not familiar, it's a billboard that says simply:
"The Loch Ness Monster. Big Foot. Tampa Bay Lightning Fans."
Get it? They're implying we don't exist! Oh, the insult! The outrage! The ignominy of it all! How do we respond? First things first, we should laugh. Because unlike the standard, stupid arguments over which fans are better (see above), that's actually kind of clever and pretty funny. As far as insults go, you can't possibly take it seriously. You do know you exist, right? If you're not sure, pinch yourself. Then pinch another Lightning fan, just to be sure (make sure he or she is cute first and if something comes from that, well, you're welcome).
Besides, how do they know Big Foot and the Loch Ness Monster aren't real? A discussion over the presumed existence of thought-to-be mythical beings that choose not to manifest themselves physically upon demand is probably better left to blogs of a more spiritual nature, but the Boston Bruins marketing department doesn't know everything. Just sayin'.
Plus they're letting us off relatively easy. This is what their billboards said about Flyers fans:
"Never, ever date a Flyers fan. Even if she shaves her mustache."
So what do we do? Turn the other cheek? Ignore them so they leave us alone? Stay classy? Well, of course not. What's the fun in that? No, we retaliate in kind, rising (or stooping) to whatever levels necessary to make our point. Now, unfortunately I haven't thought the whole thing through enough to offer suggestions as to how to accomplish that. But I have faith that there are creative people out there who will come up with something.
All I know is if there isn't at least one person dressed as Big Foot at Thursday's game, well, then maybe we are bad fans.
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Cooked this up the other day when they went all Myth-ic on us.

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meme-based entry, C+ (and that’s generous)
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 16, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
If you basing your grading on originality then the original Bruins billboard would be a D. Especially in light of the facts which show similar attendance.
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I’m judging just slapping a “busted” on the picture.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 17, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Needs more Kari Byron.
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by John Fontana on May 16, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
So does everything else… (drool)
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by Dig Deep on May 16, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Uh, no thanks.. I like Kari, and all, but….
Now, if ya wanna talk about Tory… I’ll be open for discussion on that matter…ROFL
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by Tina Robinson on May 16, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
sellout streak started in ’03
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 17, 2011 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
you've sold out the Yankees game every year since '03?
:-p
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by Incipient_Senescence on May 17, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Also the ones against lesser teams like the rays
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 17, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
that might bother me
if I were a Tampa sports fan overall. Or a baseball fan.
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by Incipient_Senescence on May 17, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d like to get down there for a ball game and the Bolts. Have an aunt who is 20 minutes from the rink.
The atmosphere is changing int eh building. It used to be real sterile — even with a lot of the fans makign up for what was missing.
I guess we do have to thank Boston for one thing specifically: Jeff Vinik. Jeremy Jacobs helped getting him a meeting with Bettman regarding Club ownership
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by John Fontana on May 17, 2011 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally, I think the banner is funny and creative. People need to stop taking it sonseriously, I think. If folks are incensed, then it’s probably because it hits too close to home to not feel painful.
Fact is, Bolts fans are having a resurgence. The implication there is for a while the Bolts have been the “other” team, playing third fiddle to the Rats and the Bucs in popularity.
If Joe Boltsfan is so incensed and offended, use that energy to come up with a suitable—and better—response.
For me, I’d prefer to have my team do my talking for me, which they did.
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
by MTBoltFan on May 16, 2011 4:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Bolts fans are resurging, the bandwagon is getting bigger on a daily basis. Which is why its fun to take playful shots at this marketing effort.
Boston is focused on the Bruins currently because all of their other teams are on hiatus or not doing well, else the Bruins’ would be going through something similar with the Celtics and Red Sox splitting their fan base.
How the Lighting is playing speaks volumes, more clearly than any marketing effort.
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THIS
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by Tina Robinson on May 16, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Clark, you missed the Phootshop retaliations
Bolt Prospects have led the charge on their message forum, sometimes posting graphics on Twitter.
This is just awesome:

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by John Fontana on May 16, 2011 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
That!
Is the that about which I am talking!
by Clark J Brooks on May 16, 2011 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Brilliant. A.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 16, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
who found me on my recent camping trip
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Perez Hilton. Damn paparazzi…
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by John Fontana on May 16, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
goddamn vultures and I tried so hard to keep them off my lawn
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GET OFF MY LAWN!!
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by Tina Robinson on May 16, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You’ll have to ask Roloson how that’s done.
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by Cassie McClellan on May 16, 2011 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Big Foot wears #41?
That explains the mysterious disappearance of Mike Smith…
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
Personally, I like how it’s wearing a Mike Smith jersey. ;o)
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by Cassie McClellan on May 16, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking as a proud member of the Lightning Bandwagon (New York Rangers Chapter)
I happen to fix the wheel as well as the axel and gave it a slick new paint job after game 82 (it was the least I could do since you guys graciously got my team into the first round) and look at how well the team has done since then. Sometimes its good to have a bandwagon…it all depends on the team and the fanbase, you guys are more open to newer fans since you are a younger franchise where as the Bruins (and to some extent the Rangers) are all stuck up in their history and are very close minded to newcomers
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Any hockey fan that hates bandwagon fans is mentally deficient. Or they think ticket prices will go down. Which goes back to the first point. Bandwagon fans can become “new” fans if they stick around, and who actually wants fewer hockey fans around?
I do like that my team makes trolling billboards for the playoffs, though. Good work all around.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 16, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
So we’ll be saving you a seat for the Finals then? ;o)
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by Cassie McClellan on May 16, 2011 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Boston is the biggest bandwagon town in sports
Check out the Celts and Bruins attendance before they were winning. Very poor.
and I think we all have seen how much the Red Sox Bandwagon has grown since 2004.
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If find if hockey fans insult or annoy me, I just point out when they last won the Stanley Cup: 1972
Always makes me feel a little better
I hope you don't interact much with the Western Conference
or Pittsburgh
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by Incipient_Senescence on May 16, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Guy Boucher's Scar Says:
Loch Ness Monster, Big Foot, Boston Bruins Power Play
http://twitter.com/#!/GuyBouchersScar
Anyone have a photo of the Bruins' arena about halfway through the third period of Game 1?
Also, I love how Boston fans continue to insist that “every team in Tampa sucks”, with the Lightning the hottest team in hockey, the Rays in first place and the Bucs one of the better young teams in football.
Slightly OT, and prefaced with the caveat I do not like anything about football, but haven’t the Bucs had like eleventy-four players arrested in the past 18 months? Not exactly the epitome of excellence.
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
It has to do with the "my city versus your city" argument.
And all I meant is that they are an ever-improving team with good young players and a bright future, which certainly seems to be a common theme among all Tampa Bay teams. So the arguement that Tampa Bay fans stink and their teams stink is not very true and Boston fans claiming such are just not right.
I don't really follow the NFL and don't know about the arrests
But last season, the Bucs jumped from 3-13 to 10-6 and finished tied with the Super Bowl Champion Packers. Also, they became the first team since the merger to have a winning record with ten rookies in the starting lineup. I imagine that’s what JGator is referencing.
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by Incipient_Senescence on May 16, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
The NFL in general has had players getting busted on a regular basis. It’s not just the Bucs.
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by John Fontana on May 16, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
And they'll continue
Whoa re we? We’re pissants compared to teh great heritage and sporting history of the New England sports world. The Red Sox, the Bruins, the Patriots and the Celtics… Boston as a metor area and New England as a region has a lot of stuff to brag of compared to Tampa Bay (or Tampa / St. Pete as some people prefer to think of the region as divided).
But the Rays are keeping the Sox from winning the AL East or vying for the playoffs. The Bruins need to get through the Lightning to advance. They’re GOING to say we suck, just like I told my friend who was a Chicago Bulls fan that the team sucks in the 1990’s: The Michael Jordan led Bulls who were anything BUT sucking. I disliked them because they were so GOOD and kept MY team of the time from advancing in the playoffs (I no longer follow the NBA).
Basically, this is the truth any time someone says “YOUR TEAM SUCKS!” — it’s the more hostile way of saying “Look, your team was good enough to get here but I do not want you to win and I think very little of you, especially if you do win and prove to be the better team.”
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by John Fontana on May 16, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Well said.
It doesn’t help that our teams (at least the Rays, I’m not sure how Bruins/Lightning salaries are compared to each other) are paying considerably less for an equal or greater amount of production.
Just not well typed.
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by John Fontana on May 17, 2011 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
If you remember Watergate, 55 cents a gallon gas and Pong being released, then you might remember the last time the Bruins won the Cup.
by Lightningfan7609 on May 16, 2011 8:38 PM EDT reply actions
This ad comes out. Boston fan throws drink on the ice. Crowd boos the home team.
I’ve never been to a Lightning game, but I assume the fans aren’t stupid enough to throw stuff on the ice and get all fairweathered-out when their team loses. Case closed.
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by Chris S Roberts on May 16, 2011 9:17 PM EDT reply actions
I can imagine throwing stuff on the ice if the team got screwed over by the refs...
But when your team simply gets outplayed? That shows a lot of class.
Seen it with th Refs screw job
<a href="http://" target="new">December 2008. Tim Peel says Mike Smith “Threw” his stick (that slipped out of his hands) at Milan Hejduk to prevent a Shootout goal and awards a goal (that was not scored). ultimately proves to be the “winner”
Fans were PISSED.
Of course, fans have booed poor efforts before, but I forget when the last time there was such a poor effort that fans threw junk at the team, or at the winning team for that matter.
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by John Fontana on May 16, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember that game well.
In a situation like that, where refs make such a bad call that directly affects the outcome of the game, I think fans have every right to want to chuck some stuff on to the ice in protest.
But as you said, I don’t recall when fans threw items for bad play. And it wasn’t even that bad; 5-2 is not a total blowout, and it’s not like the Bruins looked like an AHL team out there. My guess is that they had emptied a few beer cups before throwing them to the ice ;)
Yeah, plenty of “my first bruins game” people come out for the playoffs – they spend the money they could spend on Sox tickets
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 17, 2011 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that could be said of most of teams in the Conference Finals—East and West.
I just hope the newly-minted Lightning fans stick around next year, rather than just perform their own personal version of the “playoff push.”
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
Apparently there have been lots of "my first bruins games" over the last 3 years
seeing that the team was one of the worst draws in the NHL for at least the previous 7 years before that.
Hard to believe from a market that is larger, has about 90 years of history with the team, and supposedly has some of the most enthusiastic sports fans in the country that they could be finishing lower in attendance then teams with “no fans” like the Panthers, Coyotes, and Thrashers.
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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 17, 2011 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Funny how that’s never brought up, either, when people are throwing teams’ low attendance numbers in the NHL around.
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by Cassie McClellan on May 17, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Or that the NHLs huge mistake of a team in SFLA
The Panthers outdrew the Stars, Ducks, Blue Jackets, Islanders even though the finished last in the Eastern Conference.
Another fun fact: The last place Panthers this year outdrew the 07-08 Bruins team that made the playoffs that year.
I think it’s pretty clear Boston isn’t a viable hockey market. Move them to Hamilton
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You also are not considering the numerous college and minor league teams around here.
If Boston Bruins are not doing well, or as stated for many years had ownership that made it clear they didn’t care, hockey dollars are going to other teams around here.
If the Bolts don’t attract, is there another place for hockey fans to go?
I guess that explains the Rays attendance
Too many Florida state league teams and big time college baseball teams.
For real though. Is that really your excuse for the Bruins weak fanbase?
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Don’t need an excuse, I know where I’ve been all these years.
For decades, the Bruins were the top team in town. Long before Tampa knew what ice was, the Garden was packed.
Come the late 90s, early 2000s, the Jacobs gave up trying to keep a very competitive team since they figured people would come regardless of quality, it became all about money. Bad mistake. With the number of pick up leagues, college, and minor leagues up here, people knew when they were being hosed. No salary cap, and they can’t spend the money to get a big team? We had a power house right before the lockout and Jacobs let them all walk. They trade Thornton 5 years ago, they let Ray Bourque leave because they admitted they wouldn’t win before he retired. All the discontent built up, and many people said they’ll go elsewhere.
Die hards never leave, and I stayed with it. I do remember numerous times where I just walked up and got a ticket and moved down to the glass. It was sad, but with the solid organizations that the Patriots and Red Sox had become, I knew why many people would not waste their time when they knew ownership didn’t care.
The team is back, management and ownership woke up, and they are being rewarded by people coming back. You may get band wagon people at a hockey game, but not so much a “pink hat” crowd. People who were waiting for a good hockey team are now back, and aren’t going to see Manchester Monarch or Providence Bruins, or Worcester Sharks games as much anymore.
I believe that a non-traditional market can generate fans. Tampa is good, hockey is awesome, people will come.
My only irk is when older teams are moved down there, but Tampa is not an example of this.
But, we can keep the banter up, it’s fun.
by 13_Legion on May 17, 2011 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've got this.
Tonight I’m taking some pictures with my Bigfoot outift and Tampa jersey. I’ll post one on here.
What bugs me about that is, Cowhead didn’t urge his listeners to get on Boston earlier about it. It doesn’t mean they won’t be back up with different phrasings, it just means they were taken down (conveniently) after the first 2 games of the series.
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by John Fontana on May 19, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I could be wrong about this...
…but I don’t know that Cowhead wanted the signs down or ever made any demands to that effect. I believe his angle is that the signs questioned the existence of Lightning fans and the purpose of his response was to answer that question. Bruins management made the decision to take them down on their own.
I could be wrong about that, but I’m pretty sure that’s what happened.
by Clark J Brooks on May 19, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
May just be it.
Cowhead has reportedly also called Lightning female fans “hot” but insinuated they don’t know the sport. Which should earn him the same type of feedback the Boston marketing people got.
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