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ECF Game 5 preview: Tampa Bay Lightning (5) at Boston Bruins (3)

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WHERE: TD Garden, Boston, Massachusetts
WHEN: 8 PM EDT | | TICKETS: Check Availability
MEDIA: Versus, CBC, RDS (television), 970 WFLA (radio)
OPPONENT COVERAGE: Stanley Cup of Chowder, Something's Bruin, Days of Y'Orr

Well, you've already figured this out for yourself, but the Tampa Bay Lightning and Boston Bruins are back at even in their Eastern Conference Finals match-up. It's no longer a best-of-7 series, it's turned into a best-of-3 series.

By the end of the week, the 2010-11 Eastern Conference Champion will be crowned, and Lord Stanley's Cup will be their next target. For the loser: a lament; reflection on what went wrong, and for certain, the long off-season without hockey.

Promises and guarantees be damned, the only thing for certain after tonight's game 5 is that there will be a game 6 at Times Palace on Wednesday night. One team will have the opportunity to clinch the series at that point. Which one, the Bolts or the Bruins, will be determined tonight at TD Garden.

Star-divide

Guy Boucher was able to make lemonade out of the lemon that was the horrid display of officiating Saturday. No, not everything was truly lackluster in officiating:

 

Boucher said he had never seen a call like that but praised the referees for how they've done in Tampa.

"If it's a mistake and the (referees) make only one during the entire game, they're like coaches and players if they limit their mistakes," Boucher said. "The referees have been great the past two games. They let the players play."

 

But if what Steve Downie does here was diving...


...Then water is no longer considered wet, the sun rises in the west every night, and the Edmonton Oilers won the 2011 President's Trophy.

The justifications I've seen from people regarding the call is that Downie is a dirty player, dirty rotten player, scumbag, whiner, deserves worse, etc, etc. It's reputation.

But could you see Matt Cooke being called for diving if it was he who was boarded and concussed by Nathan Horton? With Horton hovering around and taunting? Speaking of reputations, do you actually expect the league to give second look at this incident and hold Horton accountable? Nope, I didn't think so.

And why? Because Club Two-Minutes, the good old boy network of NHL officials and Colin Campbell, will not second guess themselves, nor be held accountable. Their judgement rules all, and their personal opinions sway those on-ice decisions more often than not. Yes, things happen in a split second on ice and referees and linesmen have to react.

But everyone deserves a fair shake, even the disliked players. Referees in any sport are supposed to be impartial -- not biased and vindictive.

With Downie likely out for tonight, expect either Blair Jones inserted into the lineup in Downie's place, or a resumption of the 11-forward, defenseman roster split, with Randy Jones playing as the 7th defenseman.

Anyway...

Another oddity that's come to pass since Saturday's victory over Boston, is the debate about who starts in net for the Lightning tonight. Dwayne Roloson? Mike Smith? In my own biased opinion (and yes, I know, hypocrite -- but I am not a referee, now am I?), I can't put this up for debate. It's Roloson's job. Mike Smith, for all his solid play in relief for Rollie, has the baggage of his recent past: Play soundly for a spell, then collapse in spectacular fashion just when fans think he has turned a corner.

We're at that juncture again where we believe he's turned a corner.

I'm not trying to wish ill on Mike Smith. I truly hope he has turned a corner. I thought, for sure, he should start game 4 of the Eastern Conference Semifinals against the Washington Capitals. I also can't deny the team playing soundly in front of Smith.

But it's Roloson's show. He was brought to the Lightning for the sake of righting the ship in-the-crease.

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Here's a reminder that the Lightning will be holding another watch party outside the St. Pete Times Forum tonight.

Fans are advised to arrive an hour and a half prior to the puck drop (6:30 PM) to enjoy a number of amenities outside on the west plaza before the game, such as live music and entertainment, games, various fan activities and more. Individuals are also permitted to bring blankets, lawn chairs and coolers packed with food and non-alcoholic drinks, although various food items and alcoholic beverages will be available for purchase at the arena.


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The Bruins are going to try and recapture the physical game tonight after they were on the receiving end on Saturday. Its not going to be pretty, and I hope against all prior evidence that bad hits and actions by the Bruins actually get called appropriately.

And the words, “Major make-up calls for Downie benefiting the Lightning” should be on the referees memo this morning as well.

A proud Panthers season ticket holder since 1994 and Lightning ticket holder since 2011! Go Florida Hockey!

by coasterg on May 23, 2011 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah right about the make up calls

It would be nice. So would a pony for Christmas.

Horton gets nothing for the cheap shot at the end of game 1, and now pulls this crap. Nothing going to be done aobut it.

In fact I would not be surprised if a Lightning player gets a dive tonight…

by tampa_edski on May 23, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

What if someone does?

You fear Boston’s PP or something?

by 13_Legion on May 23, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good write up

Go Bolts!

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by Sveet on May 23, 2011 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Starting Goalie

Here is one angle on starting goalie also. It is employed at times in Football when a team has a question about the best option at starting QB and I think its valid for this decision as well.
We now have a guy in Smitty that we know can “pitch in relief”. Meaning he can come in cold and shut the door. The team will rally for him and believe he can change things. There is value in having that on your bench incase your starter struggles or as with Saturday if your team starts giving away the puck like they are toxic. We don’t know that Roli would have that mojo in relief.
So for the reasons John gave as well as this one I’d start Roli.
Go Bolts.

by Barlow1 on May 23, 2011 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

I fully expect Roli in net

I would be shocked if it were Smith

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by Sveet on May 23, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's go Bolts!

Take back the control of this series!

Sons of Plunder

by Gatorbuc15 on May 23, 2011 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Days of Yorr

John – Have you read some of that illiterate clown’s recent posts? He’s become obsessed with some sort of crusade against the Lightning’s fanbase. The guy has, frankly, lost ALL credibility as a blogger and has effectively assumed the role of severely retarded child. The whining, coupled with the horrific writing, is pathetic on so many levels.

In short, I think you should cease recommending Lightning fans take a look at that repository for sub-human behavior. There is literally no value in any of his writing.

PS For those not familiar, the whole website is a half hearted attempt at trying to recreate “ThePensBlog”…Needless to say, he failed spectacularly.

by vlac4 on May 23, 2011 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Wait, which one are you talking about? 4 people write that blog.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 23, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Four minute reply? Good God.

“Jon” has been particularly bad, but the others aren’t much better.

by vlac4 on May 23, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

You posted as I was checking in, but if you’d rather think I was just waiting for the right moment to strike….well, I don’t know what to tell you.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 23, 2011 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

You critique a response time?

So you don’t think there’s a lot of traffic here then?

by 13_Legion on May 23, 2011 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It was actually a positive critique. I was impressed, and that’s why I responded to his question. Glad that you felt like you needed to take a jab at a fan run blog.

by vlac4 on May 23, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll be sure to return the favor over at that juggernaut, Stanley Cup of Mediocrity.

by vlac4 on May 23, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which neither 13_Legion nor I write for. We just as much run that as we do Raw Charge.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 23, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fan posts don’t count? :(

by 13_Legion on May 23, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

They do for me, but they only sorta count until they make the front page in my book.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 23, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand that. I clearly don’t write for RawCharge, but it’s my team’s SBNation blog and 13_Legion was pleased with his jab at the blog. In turn, I responded that I’d be happy to do the same to the Bruins’ SBNation blog.

Does that make sense now, Cornelius?

by vlac4 on May 23, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I’d just rather be judged by my own crappy blog than someone else’s.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 23, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Then why come on here???

A.K.A.- "DetroitALLtheWay09" ...Was time for a new name, to better represent BOTH my teams!! Plus that was my OG name from the '09 Play-Off run.. which didn't end so well. IN YZERMAN WE TRUST!! LET'S DO THIS!!

by Let's JOE WINGS-BOLTS on May 23, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m confused by your question.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 23, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I judge you based on your blog. That is why you don’tget your stuff on the front page.

by Stanley Cup of Chowder on May 23, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t need anything on your front page, but it would be nice if occasionally a fanpost that wasn’t yours or Phunwin’s came up in the primary position.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 24, 2011 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its just a really childish blog. An equivalent to a radio “shock jock” who thrives on attention created from negativity.

A proud Panthers season ticket holder since 1994 and Lightning ticket holder since 2011! Go Florida Hockey!

by coasterg on May 23, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like the DJ down there crusading against the signs that were up at the Garden?

by 13_Legion on May 23, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, that DJ is also a complete moron, but I’m not aligned with him nor am I recommending that we put a link to his website on the pregame post.

by vlac4 on May 23, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s also made sexist insinuations about women who go to Lightning hockey games, from what I’ve been told.

Typing is an adventure, and reading should be, too!
Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on May 23, 2011 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

The DJ

He’s only on the team bandwagon because of the playoffs. Please don’t equate his idiocy with the loyal members of Bolts Nation. Two days after the Lightning’s last game next month (I hope!) he’ll go back to his rants about the Topic Du Jour.

I thought the signs were funny, myself.

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 23, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I took what Clark said to heart

“Grin and bear it”

Typing is an adventure, and reading should be, too!
Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on May 23, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I, for one, am thankful that you guys seem like you’re not completely insane.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 24, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't believe they actually removed them

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by Sveet on May 23, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I too am surprized.

I was hoping they’d have had something new for tonight’s game, but haven’t seen or heard anything yet.

by 13_Legion on May 23, 2011 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, neither can I. Here’s hoping they replace them before tonight.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 23, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I couldn’t believe they actually removed them either based on that DJ. Poking fun at your opponent is acceptable behavior, there are instances when it goes too far – this isn’t one of them.

A proud Panthers season ticket holder since 1994 and Lightning ticket holder since 2011! Go Florida Hockey!

by coasterg on May 23, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which DJ?

Hope it was Bubba!! Dont wanna go down that road with him.

A.K.A.- "DetroitALLtheWay09" ...Was time for a new name, to better represent BOTH my teams!! Plus that was my OG name from the '09 Play-Off run.. which didn't end so well. IN YZERMAN WE TRUST!! LET'S DO THIS!!

by Let's JOE WINGS-BOLTS on May 23, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cowhead

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by Sveet on May 23, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

This brings up something I’ve been meaning to say for a while – and when the Lightning are done playing, I’ll probably write up a post about this. I’ve been very impressed with the general maturity level of the majority of fans who come and comment here, no matter what team they’re fans of. Seriously. Playoffs tend to bring out the worst in people, and very few have resorted to name calling and other childishness. So thank you, everyone, for keeping things adult. I know that I very much appreciate that!

Win or lose, I'm proud of these guys.
Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community. Follow me on Twitter: @dagmar27.

by Cassie McClellan on May 23, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not talking humor – talking about when things get heated and disagreements break out. The humor’s been fantastic, tho. You guys are some funny people!

Win or lose, I'm proud of these guys.
Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community. Follow me on Twitter: @dagmar27.

by Cassie McClellan on May 23, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s more fun if it’s civil. Or at least within proper borders.

by 13_Legion on May 23, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Typical situation...

Buncha bitter jerks with wayyyyy to much time have to ruin it for everyone. To me, it just means were doing something right!! For some reason, even before this.. the Bolts have become more and more hated. Which believe it or not, is a great sign. Means for whatever reason.. we’re getting to them. Also being a Red Wings fan, you tend to get used to it. Winning all the time tends to make other fans/teams mad. Winning, duh? haha

Let the haters… hate. The real talking is done on the ice. Not from behind the safety of a computer. LET’S GO BOLTS!!!!!!!!

A.K.A.- "DetroitALLtheWay09" ...Was time for a new name, to better represent BOTH my teams!! Plus that was my OG name from the '09 Play-Off run.. which didn't end so well. IN YZERMAN WE TRUST!! LET'S DO THIS!!

by Let's JOE WINGS-BOLTS on May 23, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, I haven't

To be honest, I wanted to round out the competitor blogs — but could only find (in a hasty search) the two bloguin sites that I’ve been linking to.

You’re not the first person to mention their attitude, and I have some off-the-record remarks I’d make in general if I could. But comments aren’t off-the-record.

This isn’t a yes or no, but I’ll look into replacing Days in the “Opponents Coverage” section.

Typing is an adventure, and reading should be, too!
Raw Charge.

by John Fontana on May 23, 2011 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping to hear some good hockey tonight.

Your radio crew has been very entertaining during the playoffs.

Let's Go Blues!
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by Paperwork Ninja on May 23, 2011 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Mish always brings it!!

He’s like that even in the regular season at times. We are very lucky to have such a great radio team and the local TV broadcast channel (SUNSports) does a great job as well. All the hosts have been around since the beginning for the most part. Which isn’t the longest time but still rare nowadays. We all still wonder how Dave Mishkin is able to keep his voice night in and night out.

A.K.A.- "DetroitALLtheWay09" ...Was time for a new name, to better represent BOTH my teams!! Plus that was my OG name from the '09 Play-Off run.. which didn't end so well. IN YZERMAN WE TRUST!! LET'S DO THIS!!

by Let's JOE WINGS-BOLTS on May 23, 2011 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

As a Blues fan

I still miss the days of Joe Michiletti’s color commentary and Bernie’s on-ice calls.

Mish took some getting used to—but I thoroughly enjoy his call now.

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 23, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bernie's around, but he does the benchside stuff now.

Kelly Chase is good for color commentary, but it takes a while for him to get worked up. He works pretty well with Chris Kerber. Neither of them are anywhere near as willing to destroy their vocal cords like Dave Mishkin.

Let's Go Blues!
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by Paperwork Ninja on May 23, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Chaser

Especially when he and Twister played together.

I can’t get fully behind Kerber. In my head I see a Blues game, but I remember him calling the Avalanche broadcasts for many years—and I really, really don’t like the Avs.

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 23, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s Go Lightning!!!!

Be impeccable with your word, don't take anything personally, don't make assumptions, always do your best...

by RPC on May 23, 2011 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm still miffed by this
You are a bandwagon fan base that was just pissed you were being called on it.

We have outdrawn them since our existence. We have outdrawn them since we moved to the new arena.
They were routinely at the bottom of NHL attendance throughout the 00’s, but yet they somehow think they have a great fanbase.

90 years of history. A supposed hockey loving market. A larger city. And you still can’t outdraw us.

I guess we know who the band-wagoners really are.

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by Sveet on May 23, 2011 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

The truly hilarious thing is that they are so arrogant that their brains simply cannot comprehend the facts

How delusional does someone have to be to have the facts be clear and written in the simplest form a child could understand it yet still continue on with a belief that goes contrary to said fact?

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by matthan on May 23, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's not take this to the personal level, now...

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 23, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh, people can say what they want. I just smile at it myself.

Out of curiosity, how is the social environment for games, say during regular season? Is there a sport bar area around the building, or in another area of the city that is packed for Bolts games?

Many people even if they don’t have tickets will make it a social evening to go down by the Garden to eat and drink on game days. If we’re talking about fan interest, such things need to be taken into account as well. Some people just will not pay pro level prices now.

by 13_Legion on May 23, 2011 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course there's a hockey culture

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ycn-7208630

I really don’t think you can comprehend the fact that well over 60% of Tampa is directly from the North East or Mid West or Canada. And that number increases to 85% between October and April. Yes, people in Tampa know hockey. Yes, people in Tampa bars talk hockey. Yes, 90% of all sports bars carry NHL network. Next time you are in Tampa, ask someone where they are from. I’ll give you 7-10 odds they will not say Tampa, but some city north Nashville.

"System Trumps Chumps" - Tampa t

by tankerkevo on May 23, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

And, contrary to popular belief, the majority of fans are under the age of 40. They are not snow birds coming down from Canada. In fact, I’ve only very rarely seen people who are obviously retirees at games.

Win or lose, I'm proud of these guys.
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by Cassie McClellan on May 23, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have an aunt living down there.

Well aware of the transplant population.

by 13_Legion on May 23, 2011 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I ever get down there, going to try Hattricks’s

by 13_Legion on May 23, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention..

How they go on and on about their being so many “Bruin fans dominating the Forum” and then go on to talk about all the old, dumb, whatever people in Florida. Then why are so many of ‘em Bruin fans then?? Doesn’t say much for the fact, now does it? I guess their bandwagon got lost. This whole thing is ridiculous, but in a way you gotta love it. No matter how pathetic it gets. I should hope an original 6 team can fill an arena and not go 947865948 years without a Cup(or a World Series), but whatever. What do us Bolt fans know? Heh.

Also, I don’t know where he’s been getting his ticket/attendance facts? Take it from me, you havent been able to get tickets for a while now. Oh and what about the 3,000+ fans watching on the big screen outside. That’s one big ass bandwagon.

A.K.A.- "DetroitALLtheWay09" ...Was time for a new name, to better represent BOTH my teams!! Plus that was my OG name from the '09 Play-Off run.. which didn't end so well. IN YZERMAN WE TRUST!! LET'S DO THIS!!

by Let's JOE WINGS-BOLTS on May 23, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Secondary market for tickets.

I was tempted to get seats and fly down. $50 on Stub Hub for Game 4? Was shocked at how low it was.

With air fare, I could have gone down and spent arguably the same amount of money as some lower bowl seats at the Garden through the secondary market.

Is it a popular ticket to scalp down there?

by 13_Legion on May 23, 2011 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The whole “bandwagon fanbase” concept is ridiculous anyway. A few years ago, when the Blackhawks, Capitals, and Penguins all sucked, their attendance sucked as well. Same thing with BOSTON when they had the pair of down seasons following the lockout, and this was at a time when the C’s weren’t doing too hot themselves either.

Every fanbase, when their team is playing very well, is going to have its fair share of bandwagoners. It’s also to have its fair share of people who didn’t care to dish out money to watch a crap product in person and opted to follow on TV primarily, where once they started to suck, they didn’t waste money and flexibility in the process.

I can only speak for myself (though I assume Bolts fans here are the same), but I’ve followed this team through multiple 50 loss seasons both before and after they won the Stanley Cup. Every sports team of mine I’ve been a fan of since I liked sports. Anyone with the temerity to drop a bandwagon fan line on me is opening themselves up to get socked in the face.

by FloridaownsFSU on May 23, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Moved down here late March 1997, and decided immediately I was going to be a Bolts fan. They narrowly missed the playoffs that year, then started the 4 or 5 stratight 50 loss seasons.

But they are the home town team, and I am a hockey fan, and despite it not being as popular a sport here in FLA than in Detroit or NY (where I came from originally), there was always a solid core of fans watching those putrid teams.

The year after the Bolts won the Cup the attendance was all sell outs…as they got farther away from that shining moment and the team drifted to mediacrity and sub-par play, the attendance waned. But never to the 9-12K levels of the early aughts. Seemed like it was 13-15K most nights.

So I would contend that the Lightning are a good example of a sun-belt expansion team beginning to develop a solid hard-core fan base. As opposed to Atlanta, which appears destined to lose it’s second NHL team…

by tampa_edski on May 23, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

The funny thing...

Let’s say that the forum was packed with Bruins fans, it wasn’t, but let’s pretend. What does that say about Boston? Tampa is a transplant city…the VAST majority of our populace has roots in the North East and Mid West, and many of them still cheer for the cities they came from. It’s pathetic. Cheering for a city you CHOOSE not to live in. ROTFL. Basically, when these Boston egg heads say “there’s more Boston fans in Tampa than Tampa fans” they are saying, “Boston is a crappy place to live compared to Tampa as more people leave crappy Boston to live in awesome Tampa than vice versa”.

That said, we have to face it. Tampa is a city where a large portion of sports “fans” say, “I cheer for Tampa as long as they are not playing [insert crappy city they left to live in Tampa]”.

"System Trumps Chumps" - Tampa t

by tankerkevo on May 23, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

part of that is the time it took to get good teams here

although there are a lot of “fans” who cling to the team of their childhood rather than root for the home team.

it’s a tired discussion…the best way to get converts is to win.

by tampa_edski on May 23, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

The homers are still pathetic though.

"System Trumps Chumps" - Tampa t

by tankerkevo on May 23, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

of all the arguments I’ve seen, this is actually a pretty good one. Except for the part where most Bruins fans picked Boston as their team long before they picked a spot to live, and deep roots die hard.

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by Cornelius Hardenbergh on May 24, 2011 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a defender you’re supposed to take the pass away in that situation. Good thing Boychuk failed at that.

by BennIsBeast on May 23, 2011 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

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Imag0026_small Cassie McClellan

Writing Staff

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Ads_small Tina Robinson

Beardweekone_small Matt Amos

Photo_small Clark J Brooks

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