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Tuesday Night Link Dump & Open Thread

Roli is awesome. That's all. (Photo by Justin K. Aller/Getty Images)

The season's over. Now what? (The question we are all asking...) 

While the fact that the season is finished sinks in, there is quite a lot to think about - including the real impact of the 2010 - 11 season [Tampa Tribune], or on a less uplifting note, where all of the UFAs / RFAs will end up. While Steven Stamkos hopes to stay with the Lightning [St. Petersburg Times] (and Simon Gagne as well [espn1040.com]), we all know that the roster won't be the same the next time around.  

But still! With the Lightning officially packed up and out of town, there are still so many things ahead. As for hockey, there are the Stanley Cup Finals, and if you need to mix it up, there are books to read, tans to get, exercise to be had (perhaps yoga?). If you aren't feeling any of my list items for summer, feel free to start with the list of links below & after the jump. 

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(we're not inundating you on Thrashers / Winnipeg coverage in our link dump, mostly as this was put together before today's events.  That, and we can all talk about it in tonight's open thread)

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Yes! The open thread is back!

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by Kevin Sellathamby on May 31, 2011 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

How are you going to jinx things THIS time, kev? ;-)

How goes it?

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s alright. I’ve got a busy few days ahead for me.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on May 31, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I better say it now, because it’s been fogotten with the playoffs — or dismissed with focus elsewhere over the last few months: The Devils run from January through the end of the season was probably the most under-appreciated stories of the seaosn. What a comeback!

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were actually pretty newsworthy up until the playoffs- first your least favourite contract negotiations, then MacLame running the team into the ground, then the run, then the draft lottery…

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by Kevin Sellathamby on May 31, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The second Summer of Stevie has commeced

Good evening, Ladies and Gentlemen, with our official start to the off-season in this open thread. It won’t be as fast paced as a normal game thread(especially if no one shows up :-p ) but it’s here where we encourage you to socialize or just talk about the team, the league, summer, etc.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Thought for the day:

@rhaen_: Grandpa: “Ur brother told me today hes a Raptors fan. Did I do a bad job of raising you? Did I not beat the Toronto out of you kids enough?”

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

The Thrasher side - the personal side - of today's news

I would like to direct everyone over to Bird Watchers Anonymous:

http://www.birdwatchersanonymous.com/2011/5/31/2199199/the-thrashers-chapter-comes-to-a-close

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 7:36 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Hope this

isn’t too soon, but please consider yourselves formally invited over to Nucks Misconduct for the SCF, if you wish.

Look around, my little friend
Jubilation in the land
Freddy get ready, rock steady
When Luongo strikes up the band.

by Smoboy41 on May 31, 2011 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Not too soon at all. I personally am lousy with getting over to other game threads – it was the case for the entire season. So it’s not personal if I don’t show up over there But I thank you for the invitation

I’m pulling for you guys.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only if they’re about to clinch it for me. I was in Vancouver during the Finals in 1994. Didn’t go to a game, but I was in town. I’d like to see them win it.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m probably going to be there adding my snarky commentary.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on May 31, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

We would

expect nothing less, mister. ;)

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by Smoboy41 on May 31, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Am I lucky

Or did I miss something noteworthy by not being able to see / be around for the noon presser?

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

So, I hope this is not in poor taste

with the recent loss of our Atlanta brethren, but. . . we get to go to Winnipeg three times next year? Fun times. Hopefully we at least still beat them every time.

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Go Bolts! Out West, go Preds! Southern hockey solidarity!

by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I wish they were in the West already to give Antero Niittymaki a chance to continue his streak against them.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Winnipeg in the SE

I hate that. I SO hate that. They have enough time to get this stuff in order and instead they go with the path of least resistance — again — and kick the can down the road. The league is weak.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s just for one season. Besides, I sort of think it’s poetic justice. People in Winnipeg will be forced to endure the despised Southeast Division. 12 home games will be taken up by the Lightning, Panthers, Hurricanes, and Capitals. Makes my cold, spiteful little black heart beat for joy just thinking about it.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

especially if they go 0-12-0

or maybe 3-9-0, with wins against the Caps

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m thinking of our players. They have to endure Winnipeg. Three times next season.

They did nothing to deserve that.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were going to go there for preseason, anyways. So they have to go back twice more than scheduled. They’ll be even more thankful that they play in Florida afterwards.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Panthers-Winnipeg: Those games will sell like hotcakes /chuckles.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on May 31, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.icethetics.info/blog/2011/5/31/thrashers-moving-to-winnipeg.html
some more stuff to read about the whole Winnipeg thing. It also comes with a neat map!

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by Hockeyboy41 on May 31, 2011 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

speaking of Icethetics, I want to run a jersey contest during the off-season. Probably after the cup finals. Details at a later date. (Like, a jersey for what?)

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re going with third jerseys, aren’t you.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

How is everyone?

I haven’t written much since the playoffs ended. Not because I am upset or something, it’s more like I am taking a break from blogging. Had been writing and covering things to a T for a lot of the season and this is the first chance I have had to gasp some air. Kudos to Clark, Cassie, Meredith for putting stuff up over the last few days.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I decided not to put up my rant about the Atlanta-Winnipeg thing. It was more cathartic than anything. I don’t think it would’ve made me any friends. ;o)

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would love to read it in private

I should share with you what I wrote for the Lightning if they beat Boston in Game 7

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

now THAT just sounds depressing

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had both the pro and the con written the afternoon of game 7 (for web traffic reasons, I wanted a post ready to go if we wnon or lost).

What was depressing was admitting we could lose.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

at the time, I'm sure

but afterwards, it’s depressing to remember what we were so close to getting but did not get. It’s like those screencaps floating around the internet of CBS/ESPN posting the final score of Tennessee’s wins over LSU and North Carolina this year (in both cases, more time was added after the score was declared final, and Tennessee lost). Depress me every time I see them.

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you were pro-Atlanta

maybe we could’ve started winning over some Thrashers fans who aren’t too bitter about us beating them all the time.

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give them some time to mourn. They’ll find us. Don’t worry. ;o)

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, I know, it takes time

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Time and space (and I don’t mean a Carl Sagan type thing).

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hooray for physics! Oh. Wait…. ;o)

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm doing fine

stage one of the long weekend move from Tennessee and Boston to North Carolina starts tomorrow, so lots of prep.

Already looking forward to seeing what happens in free agency and how the schedule sets up next year (particularly the three games in Raleigh). I hope we can improve on this year’s run, but there is plenty of work to be done. We have a nice core, but Yzerman is going to have to earn his keep again this summer. If it can be like last summer, that would be the best thing ever.

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m actually skeptical about the team improving next year. I look at Boucher’s record with Drummondville and he had a strong first year and a downer of a second year.

Guy? Prove me wrong. I don’t doub tyru abilities… I’m just wondering if you can build on over-achieving this season.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, I don't foresee a deeper playoff run

But I think the #5 spot in the East seems pretty sustainable. It will be harder as people adjust to the 1-3-1, but I think Guy showed in the playoffs that he can adjust right back. A lot of it is going to come down to what happens in free agency. Is Roloson back? How is Cedric coming along? I know we won’t keep all of Gagne/Isberg/Purcell/Brewer, but who do we keep, and who do we add?

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cedric had surgery, he’ll be late to arrive for next season. While Roloson comign back would be grand, I hate the idea that Mike Smith might be brought back to back him up. The guy needs a fresh start elsewhere.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. I think Smitty ought to move on – for his own peace if mind. There’s just too much baggage for him with the Lightning.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed on both counts

we need to let Smitty go, but who is our #2. And, even though I’m sure we’d love Roloson, what does he have left?

Also, regarding your Drummondville comment, year three was the breakout year, right?

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes on Drummondville

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be cool with a year three President's Trophy

but it is only one stop’s worth of data, so I don’t know how much we can take from it. What was the situation surrounding Drummondville that year? Hell if I know.

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

The backup would be Desjardins, if not for Smitty. Everyone in Norfolk agreed that he’s ready for the NHL. And I saw nothing to contradict that claim.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

but if he's a late arrival, who else do we have for October?

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tokarski could work in a pinch. Gut feeling is that Yzerman’s going to draft a goalie this year. Probably not a first rounder – more like third or fourth round. But that’s just me taking a guess. ;o)

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the big quesiton. Do you obtain another AHL’er who could break through — or coudl serve as a pair in the AHL with Dustin Tokarski? Or do you promote Tik to severe with the Lightning while Desjardins rehabs and gets ready?

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

on this question, I have no answer

I saw a good performance or two from Cedric, but I know nothing about the other goalies

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been busy- still trying to find work, plus i’ve also gotta manage my own blog now and i’m doing quite a few prospect profiles for ILWT. So all in all a ton of fun.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on May 31, 2011 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another Raw Charge note

Our Question fothe Week feature was supposed to resume this week. Someone’s lazy ass (me!) totally dropped the ball in getting a question out in a timely manner to everyone.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone come across any interesting links of their own

From the hockey world?

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I was talking with Lyle Richardson of Spector’s Hockey, The Hockey News, Fox Sports, etc., on Su Ring & my hockey show over the weekend, and he seemed to think that everyone currently on the team could be signed and not go over the cap.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

(if anyone needs to be told who Lyle “Spector’s Hockey” Richardson is, they haven’t been around the blogosphere long enough)

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, but just covering all of my bases. ;o)

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

interesting

I think Gagne and Bergenheim are the two most likely to go. If they do go, I’m not sure what we need to do to the forward pool, or whether we need to do anything. But shoring up the blue line would be a plus. Brewer helped, but it still isn’t a strength.

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

He seemed to inclined to think that Bergenheim will stay – tho, we didn’t talk about Gagne.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we have a chance at keeping Bergenheim

but my worry is what John mentioned earlier about him wanting minutes with the first power play or even first line

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

What it’ll come down to are two things: Does he think he has a good chance at winning the Cup with this team? And, will he want to stay with a team that took a chance on him and believed in him when no one else did? Lyle seemed to think that the loyalty thing is what will lead him to stay.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can definitely see the loyalty thing keeping him around

but I could also see him go. That’s one of the hardest to gauge; I’m pretty sure we keep Teddy and Stamkos and probably Brewer

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Gagne will stay. Frankly, I think most of them will, if they’re wanted. This is a tightly knit group, and they got pretty far together. They’ll want to stay together, if possible, so they can win it all – together.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can see that

But I also think Gagne is going to take the biggest financial hit by staying. I don’t think we’ll pay him near what he could get by hunting for a team that’s willing to dole out big bucks for the last piece.

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally, I don’t really see him as one of those athletes who follows the money. I could be wrong, of course. But I think he’ll stay because he likes it in Tampa.

Besides, maybe Boucher has already brainwashed the lot of them into staying. ;o)

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, if anybody can do it, it's Guy and the JM

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

One reason to feel bad for Atlanta

Don Waddell holding court about the Thrashers leaving, which might actually be worse than them actually leaving.

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by Jamie DeVriend on May 31, 2011 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe take out one of those "actually"s.

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by Jamie DeVriend on May 31, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the actually’s actually fit, actually. But in all actuality, they may not actually work.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

See what you started?! :o\

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know...

I’ve een spiteful and snarky every time I see NFL news because the season is going toward a lockout right now. At the same time, without the NFL, the off-season seems much longer. There will be no secondary-sports events that pace the off-season liek traditional NFL training camps adn the pre-season usually does.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

dude, college sports!

I know that doesn’t fill training camp time, but everything else.

also, part of me is hoping the NFL and NBA cancel their seasons and nobody has anything to do except watch hockey. dunno if that’ll even help though

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol- College Sports

As a Michigan fan, nothing gives me greater joy right now than to read about college sports.

"You can't defense that!" -Gary Thorne, after Brian Roberts' go-ahead home run in the 8th inning of an O's game vs. TB

by SnipeShot on May 31, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

Schaaaaaaaaaaadenfreude

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry have to post at least one of these...

"You can't defense that!" -Gary Thorne, after Brian Roberts' go-ahead home run in the 8th inning of an O's game vs. TB

by SnipeShot on May 31, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a trove of mocking OSU images

But this is, of course, a hockey blog.

"You can't defense that!" -Gary Thorne, after Brian Roberts' go-ahead home run in the 8th inning of an O's game vs. TB

by SnipeShot on May 31, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

mocking OSU--like Sam Adams--

always a good decision

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

Above replaces Stammer as my wallpaper for a couple of days.

"You can't defense that!" -Gary Thorne, after Brian Roberts' go-ahead home run in the 8th inning of an O's game vs. TB

by SnipeShot on May 31, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I like mocking Oregon State aw well – even tho it’s almost too easy so that it feels shameful. ;o)

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

why Oregon State?

I thought it’d be Wazzu.

Note I did go ahead and take a shot at Kentucky basketball in this thread. That one’s always fun too. As well as Alabama, Georgia, and Florida in football

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mocking Calipari

Yes. About time his transgressions catch up with him as well.

And you missed Auburn on that list too.

"You can't defense that!" -Gary Thorne, after Brian Roberts' go-ahead home run in the 8th inning of an O's game vs. TB

by SnipeShot on May 31, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a Tennessee fan

we don’t play Auburn very much. Alabama and Florida are the big football rivals, Kentucky in basketball. And Georgia just thinks they’re a rival, so we can bash them too.

But these days, Auburn is an easy target.

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

In response to Pryor's career in Colombus likely being done

Someone commented ‘somewhere Chizik is reaching for his cell phone’, which gut a chuckle and rec from me.

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by SnipeShot on May 31, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol. nice

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, Wazzu is just held in contempt. But Oregon State are the Beavers, while Oregon are the Ducks. How can you NOT make fun of those schools, if only just for their nicknames?

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

fair enough

I’ve always wanted to see a yearly series between the Oregon State Beavers and the South Carolina Cocks

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re easily amused, aren’t you. :oD

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's just too perfect not to happen

and then just think about all the standard innuendo from football commentary. the defense stiffens in the red zone; they’ve begun to get good penetration from the line. . .

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s almost as bad as most hockey games with “he can’t get it up” and “he’s gripping the stick to tight”. Sticks, creases, and hands – oh my! ;o)

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

teehee!

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

There will likely be NFL football, but it’ll be with scab players – like the last time they had a lockout.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as it doesn’t involve scabs performing “I Shall Survive”…

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ewww! :o\

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt you ever saw The Replacements, did you? Gene Hackman, Keanu Reeves, Jon Farvearu

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I saw it – but I decided to take you literally so that you’d think I’d missed the movie reference like I usually do. :oD

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure. :-|

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do any of you know when the renovations to the forum are going to start?

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by Hockeyboy41 on May 31, 2011 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

They may have already. Seats need to be taken out to be replaced. There was concourse work already schedule for this off-season before the bigger renovations were announced.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I crowed about in another recent story

If you are looking for (cheap) 2007-logo jersey’s and hats, venture to www.authenticteammerchandise.com

Limited supplies of the Premiere and Authentic jerseys for the Bolts, and limited quantities of everything else they used to have in the store.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:43 PM EDT reply actions  

So with no games

what am I gonna do with all this pictures I have?

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Dude, that’s what Tuesday night open threads are for. Duh. Why else do you think we have them? ;o)

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s quite the trust with his vague “i’ve got pictures” post.

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by George E. Ays on May 31, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s been around here long enough to know the rules. Besides, we already own his soul. We sort of have to trust him, right? ;o)

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, he sold his soul last week for half a mallomar

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by George E. Ays on May 31, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was it moldy? Or edible?

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was delicious

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

and I haven’t looked back since…one of the best deals I’ve ever made

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh, it wasn’t worth that much to us, anyhow.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's not like we're Kentucky fans, who are happy enough with just one. . .

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL Hi Kev

You’ll find an appropriate place for them. You’re good with that shit :-)

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Linking to Bird Watchers Anonymous again

This is a testament of Matt Gunning’s work. He interviewed Lightning prospect Brett Connolly before he was dreafted:

http://www.birdwatchersanonymous.com/2010/6/24/1535368/brett-connolly-meets-the-press-pre

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Bird Watchers Anonymous will be going defunct because of the move to Winnipeg, just so you guys know. It’ll be up for archive purposes, but there will be a new blog for Winnipeg’s team.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its going to be Behind the Net for all things Winnipeg

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

which I think is Behind the Net

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was curious about that.

As in, what happens to a blog when a team leaves?

Now the question is who gets the SB Nation blog…

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by SnipeShot on May 31, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

And that was obviously answered above...

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by SnipeShot on May 31, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, From the Rink was accidentally completely taken off the web. They’ve been trying to get that reinstated for archive purposes for a while now. So, in theory, BWA is supposed to stay online. We’ll see if it does or not, tho.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey everyone, sorry I missed ’Nang G7ARMAGEDDON, but I just want to say watching Horton score in crystal clear HD hurt me more than it hurt you :D

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I threw this together for the big news of the day

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

awwwww

*tear

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sadder than a kitty drowning another kitty.

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by Dig Deep on Jun 1, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm glad to see everyone in here

Late start, I guess, but better than nothing. We had only made short news about these open threads. It’s a tradition we started last summer.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Seems fun. Any rules?

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Opent hread, just the usual. Stick to Raw Charge’s rules.

(no spam, no politics, no hate)

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

*steps off political soapbox *

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait. Are we allowed to have a tradition? We write about one of those hated Sun Belt / SE Div. / 1990s expansion teams that have no culture or history.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

somebody needs to make a Lightning-based video

to the song from Fiddler on the Roof. that’ll show ’em

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something that I think you guys will agree on

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Would anyone here like to see Boston win the cup?

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Er…no. Thank. I’m driving. ;o)

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, seeing Horton sink you guys just made me hate Boston forever. FO-EVAR

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not me. I grew up in Washington State. Vancouver was the closest NHL team to me, so I watched them fairly often. Couldn’t care less about Boston.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um…

Er… uh…

What was the question again?

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, I put the life of my pool in the hands of VAN in 4/5 games.

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by George E. Ays on May 31, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I said Van in 5 myself.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I had to, I’d have chosen 5, the guy who runs it though left 4/5 as one choice, fortunately.

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by George E. Ays on May 31, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd tend to agree with that

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Chara’s injured – he had zero impact on the Lightning for most of the series. And their defense wasn’t that great overall, either. Vancouver’s going to blow thru them like the wind. Thomas can only stop so many shots all on his own, after all.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember at least one instance

in which Chara might’ve saved a game for Boston. but that was the only one I can think of

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I say VAN in 6

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

My heart says VAN in 4 and Horton suffers a debilitating injury in Game 1

My head says VAN in 6 due to the phenomenon that is Tim Thomas (whom I happen to like, FWIW).

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by SnipeShot on May 31, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guy Boucher was asked to respond to Bettman's news from today...I have his reply here

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

+1
Guy Boucher, Bond Villain. DO IT MGM!!!

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Panthers

Hire Kevin Dineen, and are going back to red home sweaters.

As long as they get rid of their blue thirds, I am happy.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

More interesting question will be whether they find a way to get Dineen’s contract to count as part of their cap hit.

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by George E. Ays on May 31, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

red home sweaters were awesome

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

From one of my LBC peeps
Weird thing is, with the Panthers, it’s really odd that all of this news hit in one day rather than over the week. In one day we had learned about:

-Winnipeg Thrashers
-Skille and Derlyuk signings.
-New coach change.
-Bringing back the Red jerseys for next season.

Quite interesting that they chose today of all days to break out all of the news.

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

and they also bring back the John Vanbiesbrouck goalie mask

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I miss Beiser.

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by George E. Ays on May 31, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’d be awesome as a goalie coach somewhere

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ditto. :(

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by Dig Deep on Jun 1, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

The happy cat jerseys? Nope, they’re getting rid of the current home blues.

*clutches Dvorak jersey and cries *

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I miss Dvorak

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

We all miss Dvo

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Merry Q!!

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hi, Meredith! Long time no see! :o)

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hello stranger!

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just made pasta! so i’m out. but hope all are well!

by Meredith Qualls on May 31, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

So sad for ATL. It takes much more than fans to stabilize a team, unfortunately for them

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I really hate losing them int he SE.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, at least we each get 6 automatic wins against an expansion team!

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s the Bolts angle on hopeful realignment? Nashville? Detroit? Something completely radical?

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by George E. Ays on May 31, 2011 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Montreal to the Pacific and Dallas to the North East

do it NHL

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dal-Was-NJ-PHI in one division. Makes perfect sense!

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by George E. Ays on May 31, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey if Winnipeg can be in the South East anything is possible in the cooky NHL

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me and Cassie have our own ideas for radical re-alignment. But in simplicity, just move Nashville into the SE. makes most geographic sense.

If they want to re-arrange everything, that’s when readical shoudl be on the table (and it’s sure to piss everyone off)

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see the radical idea

just for something to talk about during the offseason.

But my position is that Nashville makes far and away the most sense, even though I don’t want them playing Tampa too much (since I like both). Nobody else makes sense? Philly? New Jersey? Those aren’t Southeast. And Columbus is named after the Yankee army for heaven’s sake

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mine was a three conference realignment – West, Central, and East. After that, the details were mostly up in the air. There area variety of ways to make that work.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

But ATL got Shermanized today, so its alright?

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

that it happened doesn't make it alright

the only thing okay about having Yankees in the Southeast is them finishing last every year

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMGWTF!?!?!?! Last place is for the Panthers!

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now that’s a radical restructuring.

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by George E. Ays on May 31, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

And yes, that alignment would need to be tweaked a bit with Atlanta and Winnipeg… but it’s still better than East Vs. West.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, you had some haters back then…

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, sure, I proposed breaking up the New York Team complex. Philly vs. New Jersey is more important than oxygen! :-p

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking as a fan of that "New York Team complex"

I would much rather face teams like the wings, hawks and the rest of the original six more than I would facing the islanders and devils

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those matchups with the Isles and Devils should be special events – like interleague play. Instead it’s forced in mass down your throat.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly…I’m tired of that rivalry why not get the original six to play each other some more

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

Screw that DJ Wuss guy. He better hope I never see him commenting on a blog…

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by SnipeShot on May 31, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

why not go back to the old Campbell and Wales Conferences?

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trying to make this a moving-forward type of design… Not “Go back to the old in and how we can”

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

well i dont remember the old conferences

so I figured “what the hell”

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

But who doesn’t like beating up getting beat up by the Islanders?

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

the penguins?

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate that archaic suggestion. Besides, the names always confused me. I always had to look teams up on a map to figure out which team was in what division.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually don't mind an idea like that

But some of the super-traditional rivalries I like staying intact. You did that with Boston and Montreal, but maybe Detroit and Chicago would be worth it as well. I don’t mind splitting up Tampa and Florida, but I’m not so sure about Edmonton and Calgary.

There are too many teams in the NY/NJ/PA mess to keep them all together, so as long as they each keep a couple of rivals, I’m okay. Personally, I think Pitt and Philly are the most important to keep together. Not sure about Toronto and Buffalo. They should have a rivalry, but I don’t know if they actually do. Same with LA/Anaheim.

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

I do like how you have Stars/Wild as division rivals. Possibly the most awesome consequence of these divisions. And now you might could do ’Yotes/Peg as well.

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, doing east-central-west gives you leeway to make changes. I coudl very well put Flames / Edmonton together. A lot of that is able to be discussed.

But if East ends up beign New York Rangers, New York Islanders, New Jersey Devils and Philadelphia Flyers, it defeats the entire purpose. Some people believe that’s how it shoudl be. That’s part of what is wrong with the current alignment system. It is too endered to keeping traditional together and vanquishing “new” to a different divisions / conferenceconfer

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is very much an NFL/MLB model, and it works well there

It’s okay that the Jets and Giants don’t play each other. they’ve built plenty of other rivalries. And if those four have built up such rivalries with each other, there’s no problem in keeping two in each division. that way, they each keep one big rival, so nobody lost all their tradition.

Oh, and Winnipeg now allows you to put Calgary and Edmonton together and not throw off the Canada balance. And Yotes/Peg and Stars/Wild would be awesome.

Also, to take an example from another sport, the SEC blew up a 10 team league in 1992 and went to a two-divsion format. Before then, Auburn and Alabama were Tennessee’s two biggest rivals. We never played Florida or Georgia. If you know anything about college football, you know that new rivals were born just fine.

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Logistically the MIN/DAL doesn’t make the greatest sense though.

If you grab the NHL map, and did it logically based on geography:

Zone 1: LA, ANA, SJ, PHX, COL
Zone 2: VAN, EDM, CAL, WPG, MIN
Zone 3: NSH, CAR, DAL, TB, FLA
Zone 4: TOR, OTT, MTL, BOS, BUF
Zone 5: STL, CHI, CBJ, DET, PIT
Zone 6: PHI, WSH, NYR, NJD, NYI

I don’t really care what you call the divisions, but that’s what makes sense. 3-conference with (1,2) & (3,5) & (4,6) is probably best from that point.

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by George E. Ays on May 31, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

but that's hyper-regional again

and the idea was to try to get away from that

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

regarding the logistics of having division rivals so far away: Dallas and the rest of the NFC East. And for good measure, Kansas City and Oakland in the AFC West. It can work just fine

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It can, but the NFL suffers some serious home-road problems over a short schedule b/c of travel, and that’s with a week between games. With the NHL the impact would conceivably be worse.

I mean, the impact of WPG being in the “SE” already created issues, even though it’s technically the same franchise. The motivation is the geography, so it makes most sense to realign w/ the same motivation.

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by George E. Ays on May 31, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

fair enough

but Dallas is the odd man out no matter what happens. Currently, you have them going all the way to the West Coast for all of their division games. In your format, they go the East Coast for all of their games. Is Minnesota that much worse?

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the problem I see is that if MIN-DAL stays together, you need a 5th team either to the CA-AZ section, or a 5th team to the Canadian section, and only have COL to fill both slots.

Clearly the answer is to move someone from the east to SEA/POR, then MIN-DAL can stay together.

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by George E. Ays on May 31, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is true

the Atlanta to Winnipeg kinda ruined what John had going on, which didn’t have the problem you mentioned. and Dallas is still screwed either way

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, if the NHL wants to do the stupid baseball thing with a 16-14 split, that works also (solves the COL prob mentioned above).

Also works to expand to 32 and balance it NFL style. The 30 team thing is an awkward number.

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by George E. Ays on May 31, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

but the stupid baseball thing is stupid

going to 32 would make things much simpler. I like the idea of a team in Seattle, and I’m sure we can find one more worthy city. But I don’t think the NHL as a whole is financially stable enough to support two extra teams

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, btwn KC, Quebec and SEA/POR, you can find the markets, the money is definitely an issue.

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by George E. Ays on May 31, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

with three conferences…how do you draw up the playoff brackets

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The CHL has three leagues, and they play a round robin with a host city. That’s how they deal with it. But that doesn’t quite work for the NHL.

What I’d rather do is take the 16 teams for playoffs, and keep that format. Base the top 15 for the top three in each conference while the last spot goes to a wildcard from any conference based solely upon points. Then split the 16 into two playoff groups by points – odds in Group A, evens in Group B. Then do playoffs as we all know and love them to be.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like breaking up conference alignments for the playoffs

meeting year after year in the playoffs is one of the ways to generate new rivalries (which is imperative with any radical change), and this makes it much harder.

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, very good point there

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

See? I’m much more controversial than John. He just doesn’t understand what controversy really is. No one ever likes my ideas because I like to think waaay outside of the box. :oÞ

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

As said earlier, i think by mean of the soapbox

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

two conferences with three divisions is just as easy

as three conferences with two divisions. and there are more benefits, as mentioned

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually don't mind this

Though really, most Detroit fans like me would prefer almost anything not completely earth-shattering to the screwed up system we have now.

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by SnipeShot on May 31, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said int he write up, Detroit being int eh West is part of why I wanted a big realignment

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks fo rthe healthy discussion on this, guys, instead of the knee-jerk hate.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody likes

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nashville seems the most logical. So, of course, they’ll move Detroit instead. Idiots all! ;o)

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

You underestimate King Gary

And his boundless hatred for all that benefits the Detroit Red Wings. :)

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by SnipeShot on May 31, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't really give an unbiased opinion

Considering my 2nd favorite team is the Wings (I’m from and live in MI), so I’d like to see them come to the East where they belong.

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by SnipeShot on May 31, 2011 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moving DET should only happen, IMO, if they completely blow it up and start over.

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by George E. Ays on May 31, 2011 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, I know

The unbiased part of me says Columbus, but I honestly don’t know what’s going to happen. In the meantime, I’m fuming over the fact that our Bolts, along with the rest of the SE, are punished unfairly for the next year.

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by SnipeShot on May 31, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Columbus is the team that’s farthest east – it’s a 3.5-hour drive from Pittsburgh. But then they’d probably have to scrap the name “Southeast” and do something else.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn Yankees

*grumble, grumble

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, I’m not a Yankee – I’m from the West Coast. :oÞ

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Columbus, not you

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, okay. Well, then. That’s different. Carry on! :oD

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, this has been the best day in Panthers history since they hired Dale Tallon about this time last year, so theres that

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

My friend congratulates you

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know its bad when the best days in recent memory have been the hiring of a new GM/coach

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

trust me...i do

You know how paranoid I am the closer the team (read: Sather) gets to July 1st

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now that I dont have the ‘Nang to watch, I’ve gotten super excited for my team again. The draft is only 3 weeks away!

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Solid so far.

Lets see what the res tof the off season brings

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone still here

Or did I miss the party as usual?

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 31, 2011 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Party? :o|

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems it’s always a party if I’m not around.

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 31, 2011 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, no. That’s just when Tina’s here. She’s a party all by herself.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

ITS A TEA PARTAY!



Please, please watch this!

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I click on links not described or vetted for lack of malware. Nothing personal.

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 31, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

*don't click

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 31, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aww. ’Tis just a youtube vid

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

The dangers of a Rick-Rolling are why he won’t click through :-)

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he’ll never give you up!

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

and he’ll never let you down

"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx

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A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he’ll never run around and desert you

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guess who I’m listening to right about now?

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure

And HIV is “just” an STD. :-)

I’ve not ever had a computer virus on my computer for a good reason. Never can be too sure.

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 31, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, my link below is also just a YouTube video

reasons for linkage come at 0:45 and 1:08

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright, alright

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was strangely mesmerizing – in a highly disturbing way. :o\

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very much still here

How goes?

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, thanks.

Since I’m late—not that kind of late, ladies—what’s the consensus on Winnipeg?

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 31, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

That was a really, really bad joke. I’ll be censoring my self much better in the future.

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 31, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Atlanta got screwed, John (me!) doesn’t watn the Lightning to play in Winnipeg 3 times next season.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

well at least its not permanent

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jay (me) seconds both of those things

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

dunno about consensus

but here’s what I have to say

Southern hockey solidarity!

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris (me!) wants to blow WPG out of each game they play with Florida. Lets start this relationship right

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It makes me BITTER.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bitter like a pickle? Or bitter like over-brewed coffee? ‘Cause they’re not the same, you know.

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 31, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bitter like Starbucks, or bitter like Nalley’s pickles…hmmm. I’d have to go with the pickles. Horrible aftertaste.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

That IS bitter.

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 31, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I wrote a dissertation about it. But I put it up on my personal hockey blog. I thought it was too inflammatory for Raw Charge. :o)

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

bitter like gorging on juniper berries. I eat juniper berries. I live on straight juniper berries. I dont know how I’m still alive

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

No salmonella ?

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just stomach cramps. On a serious note, if I had the choice of how to die I would choose eating poisonous berries.

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I read “gorging,” and thought of DD shaking a gourd.

I miss him and his witty banter.

BOB? Not so much.

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 31, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

My opinions

1. Winnipeg is a better hockey town than Atlanta, thought it will be weird going there thrice annually for a “southeast” division game.
2. I don’t see Gags returning, and Brewer will be highly sought-after. I’ve heard the Sabres may make a serious play.

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 31, 2011 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm quite worried about our cap situation

Many players to sign…

I actually found myself debating what would be better for the long run of this team: Stamkos at $7M per year or four first-round draft picks from the team that signs him to an offer sheet after July 1.

Heresy, I know. But that’s the level of my worry.

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 31, 2011 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I spoke with Lyle Richardson over the weekend, and he seemed pretty confident that not only can the Lightning sign most of the FAs, but also stay under the cap while doing so.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's actually mildly comforting

I’m not sure if the cynic in me believes it, but comforting nevertheless.

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 31, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

which is good news

although I wonder if there’s anything we can do for improvement or if we just have to hope we get enough from the young guys’ progressions

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

See, I don’t expect Bergenheim back. Stamkos is going to get a lot of money but I think it’s media driven that it’s 7 mil per year. Payroll WILL increase next season, that is for certain…

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lyle seemed to think that Bergenheim will probably come back – we specifically talked about him, in fact, airing out the money, ice time, etc.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

As Donny proposed, the Panthers will offer Stamkos 10 million for 1 year and you’ll have no way to counter that!

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Extra maybe $4m on the cap plus the summer overage, I can’t see how there isn’t room for Stamkos. Might make for an uncomfortable decision or two come September, but that’s easy enough to deal with.

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by George E. Ays on May 31, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

John, Cassie...

Umm…remember that draft preview thingy I was putting together?

How long is too long, article-wise?

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 31, 2011 9:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, are we talking Rolling stone 3000 words here?

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes it's best...

To break up an aritcle by subject… maybe you can get several posts out of it?

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it's at four pages

I felt the need to lead-in the thing with a review of the Lightning farm system, to see where the most glaring need was.

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 31, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pages mean nothing. What’s the word count?

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait one.

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 31, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

A tad under 1900 words.

"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011

by MTBoltFan on May 31, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shoot. When I write up articles I usually aim for 1000 words, after that I think people just skim it. My personal opinion, but I say break it in two.

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just go until I am done. If I go above a certainw ord count and breaking it up makes sense — I do that.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

No problem, no worries.

If you want to send me the drat to go over, I can do that for you.

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

In case anyone wants some epic disco music to go with this thread, it can be found here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc50EL99h94

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

rick roll?

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by Kevin Power on May 31, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope, just a classic I found years ago flipping through the music channels at 1am. Someone finally uploaded a good version of it

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

alright, y'all

it’s been fun, but I have to be up at 5:30 to start stage one of the move to North Carolina, so I’m off to bed. night!

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by Incipient_Senescence on May 31, 2011 10:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Good luck, Jay! Good night!

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, good luck with the move!

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's getting late guys and dolls

I’m ready to wrap this up too.

We’ll be doing this again next Tuesday, and every Tuesday through the off-season. I something OMGWTF big happens, we’ll likely post an open thread to coincide it, but unlike last offseason, I don’t expect that this year.

Thanks to everyone for joining us tonight. See you later!

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by John Fontana on May 31, 2011 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh yeah, its 10pm at your place, suns still shining at mine. Night everyone!

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by Chris S Roberts on May 31, 2011 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m outta here, too. Hope you see you all next week! Have a good night, everyone, and thanks for stopping by.

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by Cassie McClellan on May 31, 2011 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Dig mo'fuggin Deep. SON.

I dunno how these work… and I am too lazy to read the explanation I am sure is somewhere in plain sight… so… I present to you…

a tiny turtle.

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by Dig Deep on Jun 1, 2011 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Have to admit, it still stings...

Guess it’s only been 5 days, so will probably continue to do so. That’s the price you pay when on the hunt for Lord Stanley… just makes it that much sweeter when the time finally comes.

Either way, I’m glad their is still some hockey left to watch. And as with pretty much every Stanley Cup Finals, should be a doozy!! I guess that leaves the painful question of who to go for? Now that both my teams are done for the summer. What a season they both had, first time ever that both my teams made it that far in the same season. Makes it hard to be disappointed, no matter what happened.

Think I’m gonna have to go for Vancouver. Don’t really mind either team but after this past series, lost quite a bit of respect for the Bruins and their fans. So much so, that if it weren’t for the recent series.. I’d probably be going for the Bruins. Even if I hadn’t changed my opinion, would still be difficult to go for them this soon after. Whenever I get stuck in the situation of what team to go for (that isn’t my teams of course) I usually boil it down to.. who deserves it more? I believe at this time, Vancouver is that team.

Not to mention.. it’s been 40 damn years!! I think they’re about due for their first Cup by now.

As far as the Bolts go… Cup or no Cup… I couldn’t be more proud and optimistic about this team!! What a season!! Great work boys… can’t wait to see what you got for us next year!! (besides crappy new jerseys, haha)

Also… good to see we’ll be hosting open threads for the Finals. So, us hockey addicted Bolt heads can still chat it up while watching to see who Stanley will spend the summer with. You know he can’t wait to be back where he belongs, haha. (soon..Stanley..soon)

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by Let's JOE WINGS-BOLTS on Jun 1, 2011 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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