2011 NHL Draft day two open thread
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Following along on Twitter, everything is going very fast and very furious.
Grimaldi went 33rd — to the Pantehrs.
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sure seems that way
I’m pre-reading a paper for a conference next week, and every time I look up, it’s like there have been five more picks
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
oh hey, we're up already
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 11:42 AM EDT reply actions
and we pick Kucherov
I don’t know who that is. But I don’t know who any of these guys are, so that’s not surprising
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions
Lightning site says:
Just turned 18 last week
5’10, 160 lbs
Russian (shocker)
very skilled winger
led his junior team to an MHL championship with 58 points (27 goals, 31 assists)
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
With the 58th overall pick (second round) the Lightning selects wing Nikita Kucherov
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worries being size, toughness, effort, and whether he'll come to North American (and stay)
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
wait, now we didn't take Kucherov anymore? What's going on?
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 12:09 PM EDT reply actions
@TBLightning, after about three tweets about Kucherov
said that they were wrong and that the Bolts actually selected Nesterov
People are asking Erik Erlendsson if they’re sure we took Kucherov, and he says yes
BoltsProspects are still talking about Kucherov
Is the Bolts twitter operating trolling?
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
evidently yes
they just re-corrected back to the original Kucherov
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
apparently, we just made a trade with the Isles
Bruno Gervais for future considerations
per Erlendsson
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 12:24 PM EDT reply actions
I know nothing about the guy…
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by John Fontana on Jun 25, 2011 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just reading the BP twitter
strong goal-scorer/puck-mover as an AHL defenseman, hasn’t yet translated it to the NHL. 26 years old. Expect him in Tampa, not Norfolk.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I also went over to Lighthouse Hockey
apparently, he’s an RFA, and none of them saw room for him in their plans next year. However, the consensus is that now that he’s in Tampa, he’ll suddenly become good/consistent/whatever and be a key part in a deep playoff run
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Interview with Gervais from Hockey’s Future (from 2004)
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He’s an RFA
And Lighthouse Hockey has a post up about the news.
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by John Fontana on Jun 25, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
either way i like seeing a NHL familiar name coming back for prob a 7th rounder.
small tho. only 6’0 188
especially being a younger defenseman
presumably, there’s room for improvement, and improvement is something we could use. in the interim, if he’s better than Smaby, that’s not nothing
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
former teammate of thompson and close friend of his.... dan lacroix(something like that)
says hes smart and makes a good first pass and has a high compete level. small and fast are the players that flourish in bouchers system. no worries we are just drafting the red army this year. (no pun intended on a wings reference)
Tweet from The Fourth Period
Ggane will not return.
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I wouldn't bet money on it.
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
not shocking
but interesting nonetheless.
Sorry, Kat
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Noen of the local beats are reporting it. This is just The Fourth Period.
The Foruth Period also reported (last year) Steve Yzerman rejected the Lightning.
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by John Fontana on Jun 25, 2011 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
did not realize that
guess we’ll see
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn’t change the fact I still think he’s gone.
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
I imagine so as well
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey all
Anniversary over, I can now lurk between here, the second round, and my DVR’s first round.
What husband points I made yesterday are going to be completely spent on this afternoon of nothing but hockey.
Maybe I’ll get some NHL11 in while I’m at it…
:-)
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
Hi MT
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by John Fontana on Jun 25, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Bolts pick Nesterov
who is the guy that @TBLightning thought they picked in round two. Guess he fell a long way.
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 1:28 PM EDT reply actions
So the TBLightning Twitterer wasn't wrong.
He was just using his ESP. Or ESPN.
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
it's like he has a fifth sense or something
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
da-da-da, da-da-da
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by John Fontana on Jun 25, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Boucher on Gervais
not going to peg him with a number, but “if we’re saying he’s at worst a 7th defenseman, we have a very good 7th defenseman.”
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 1:36 PM EDT reply actions
does everything, not necessary at a top line level, but does everything
his not being injured anymore is a big plus
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this was an excellent trade by JM
you're not defending him are you?
are you his mom?
by toppleprone on Jun 7, 2011 9:43 PM EDT
Maybe means the departure of MAB?
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
I was wondering that myself
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
pick 178 and 208 are left...
almost the exact same numbers the wings selected datsyuk and zetterberg
hey, the 6th round happened already
we took a goalie who will be playing with the University of Minnesota next year—Adam Wilcox
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 1:58 PM EDT reply actions
twitter commentary:
Adam Wilcox is a funny name for a Russian
I lol’d
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
bolts draft adam wilcox (G) from Greenbay of USHL
you bet cooper had a word with yzerman about this kid.
a buddy of mine played goalie for souix falls of the USHL two years ago and last year played for Northeastern with the big D man oleksiak. wish we would have taken him. He grew up here in tampa always been his dream to get drafted by the bolts
Oleksiak grew up here?
Or were you talking about Wilcox?
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
I think he was talking about his buddy who played with oleksiak
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay
It wasn’t clear to me at all.
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
My concern
In Greenbay, he’s the backup to an undrafted goalie. Seems like a late-round gamble.
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
eh
what else do you do in the late rounds?
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I know--bad wording on my part
I was actually talking about the backing up an undrafted goalie than the gamble part of it—for that very reason.
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
Bolts traded Marc-Antoine Pouliot's negotiation rights for the 201st pick
with which they take Matthew Peca ©, also an oddly-named Russian
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 2:26 PM EDT reply actions
that's center, not copyright. always forget about auto-correct
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Peca “plays like a big man trapped in a small man’s body”
JM is big on the smaller guys, eh?
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by toppleprone on Jun 7, 2011 9:43 PM EDT
Smaller=more mobile and more speed
Both are keys in effective implementation of the 1-3-1.
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
I watched him for a few weeks in Norfolk
He really plays well against AHL competition. Not sure why that hasn’t translated better to the NHL.
Is Peca the younger brother of Michael?
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
No relation
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by John Fontana on Jun 25, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
OT: TSN's draft coverage > NHLN draft coverage
I can’t even watch the NHLN coverage today.
I really, really wish I could get TSN on my cable channel package.
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
Peca will play in Quinnipiac
Ondrej Palat is the next Lightning pick. He’s just an oddly-named person. That’s gotta be some sort of Eastern European name, but I don’t know what. Czech? Slovak?
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 2:32 PM EDT reply actions
first guess is right
he’s Czech. And plays with Drummondville. 20 yr old winger. And that’s the end of the draft
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s an over-ager now. He’s able to go to the AHL if the Bolts sign him.
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by John Fontana on Jun 25, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
and I read a tweet saying he's expected to "seriously challenge" for a spot at Norfolk
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm conflicted
I really like Rocco Grimaldi. He got drafted by the Panthers. What’s a guy to do?
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
for religion reasons or hockey reasons?
he seemed like the kind of prospect that could be a steal in the 2nd round
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Both
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
End of the draft
Was hoping for some blockbusters, but it turns out the biggest news was the Flyers on Thursday then the Sharks and Wild yesterday.
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by toppleprone on Jun 7, 2011 9:43 PM EDT
so in two days, the total change was
Namestnikov ©
Kucherov (W)
Nesterov (D)
Gervais (not drafted, trade with NYI) (D)
Wilcox (G)
Peca ©
Palat (LW)
lost Pouliot (Norfolk D)
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 2:40 PM EDT reply actions
damn, autocorrect again
you get the idea. © = ( C )
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a bad couple days' work
Though I’m disappointed in the departure of MAP.
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
Bouliot is a center.
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by John Fontana on Jun 25, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
you're right
don’t know how I got my wires crossed there
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re telling me. I wrote his name with a B instead of a P. WTF! :-D
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by John Fontana on Jun 26, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Well you're both better than TSN on Friday
They had Roli and Smitty listed as “D”—check it out as the Bolts are picking, if you still have the DVR.
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
Just got home from work...
Guess there weren’t a lot of surprises in the later rounds huh?
So, Stevie Y likes Russians…. who’d a thunk it…
Dwayne Roloson: "You damn [insert team name here]! GET OFF MY LAWN!!"
Namestnikov’s a great choice, then, since he speaks both Russian & English fluently. He can help the guys who haven’t lived in North America acclimate. That’s going to be a big help.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jun 25, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if that might be a factor
in those who are questionable to come to North america or stay in Russia
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 25, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Damian reported in the Times today that both players still in Russia indicated to the team that they want to play in the NHL. Namesnikov is already in North America, of course. One guy has the option to go to the Tri City Americans of the WHL (well, if the Americans have an import slot next season)
Hat tip to Cassie — I can spell Namesnikov now because I know how it sounds :)
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by John Fontana on Jun 26, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
you say as you forget the "t"
:-p
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by Incipient_Senescence on Jun 26, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Lightning Video
Has a great rundown of the Russians by Al Murray. Seems the other two Russians could have been 1-2 round picks if they hadn’t lived in Russia.
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
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