NHL realignment scenarios: Naming conferences and divisions
Back in the day, the NHL's conferences and divisions were named after people and/or trophies. The Eastern Conference was once the Prince of Wales Conference, for instance. It was named after the trophy awarded to the Eastern Conference champions - which is the same trophy that's still awarded now.
In 1993, they did away with that, and went to a more logical regional naming system. It doesn't always fit, of course - how can you say that the Dallas Stars should logically be a part of the Pacific Division? - but it fits, for the most part.
However, it wasn't always like that, the naming conferences for people thing. From 1967 to 1974, the NHL used a regional naming system. And previous to 1967 - during the Original Six era - they didn't need divisions or conferences, so they didn't have any.
And yet, there are a large number of hockey fans that yearn to go back to "the good old days" of when conferences and divisions were named after people. And now, with talk about future NHL realignment due to the Atlanta Thrashers moving to Winnipeg, the ghosts of remembrance have come floating back. People are dragging out and dusting off the old naming structure of calling conferences and divisions by people's names as they're speculating about realignment possibilities.
It's nostalgic, certainly, but also confusing. Personally, I could never really figure out which team was in which conference or division that way. I literally always had to dig out a map to figure it out. So for me, at least, it was a relief when they went back to the regional naming scheme.
And, frankly, I see that as a step backwards. Why use the old names again? Yes, it harkens back to childhood days when hockey heroes were larger than life, but that's about it. All it's going to do is confuse fans - particularly those who follow teams that were added to the NHL after 1993, and more recent converts.
But, if you're determined to go there, then I have a compromise: Ditch the old names; no one really remembers who those guys were anymore, anyways. Yes, it's historical, but only NHL historians are really into that sort of thing. Instead, start fresh. This is a new era in the NHL, so let's use some new heroes' names.
I suggest players from the 1967 expansion onwards. How about guys like Bobby Hull, Gordie Howe, and Bobby Orr for divisions? And instead of naming the Eastern Conference the "Prince of Wales", maybe just shorten it to "Prince" or "Wales"? Though, I'd change the Clarence Campbell Conference name completely, since "Campbell" invokes Colin Campbell and his reign of incompetency, at this point.
Who are some other players that might be worthy of having a division or conference named after them?
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Wales/Campbell Conferences. There is no substitute.
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If this were 1992, I'd agree
Seeing this is 2011, I’m just scratching my head. No substitute? No relevance.
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by John Fontana on Jul 14, 2011 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Then I assume you’re up for renaming the Art Ross to the Wayne Gretzy, the Norris to the Bobby Orr and Stanley Cup to, err, the Bettman Cup?
Still waiting to hear those immortal words:
Tampa Bay Goal, scored by #5 Mattias Ohlund...
No. Because those awards were never renamed.
Whereas the conferences were, 20 years ago. It’s called progress.
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by John Fontana on Jul 14, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
My point was (Stanley Cup sarcasm aside) that if you do one – rightly or wrongly – wouldn’t you modernise / bring forward / refresh both at the same time?
Still waiting to hear those immortal words:
Tampa Bay Goal, scored by #5 Mattias Ohlund...
If you’re going to be nostalgic, then the league already is. After the initial 1967 expansion, the league went with regional names for divisions & conferences. The people names came after that, so I don’t know that I’d refer to it as any kind of tradition.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jul 14, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Regional Names have more appeal
To the die-hard hockey fan over the legal drinking age, the old names certainly have a ring and allow us to go back to the “good old days.”
However, to the new- or inexperienced-fan of hockey, there is no substitute for regional names. All the major sports have regional names and are more conventional because of it. Hockey has a difficult enough job recruiting new fans—why make it harder for the fans when they come to the sport for enjoyment for the first time?
I speak of my own experience—I despised hockey growing up because the NHL dared to call itself a real sport—but they weren’t on any of my TV channels (granted, there were only 8 we got) and the NHL conference names were “dumb.” That’s my experience—and I think it may be echoed by many that are too quick to discount the sport we all have grown to love.
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by MTBoltFan on Jul 14, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’d automatically vote to keep Wales so I can sing “Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau” whenever the conference champ is crowned!
I’m all for honouring the past – American / National / Eastern / Western is what the others do (which is obviously why the NHL followed suit), and the NHL is great at remembering (and thus teaching) what / who got it where it is today.
Still waiting to hear those immortal words:
Tampa Bay Goal, scored by #5 Mattias Ohlund...
That’s right – you’re Welsh, aren’t you, Thierry.
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by Cassie McClellan on Jul 14, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Cool. :o)
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by Cassie McClellan on Jul 14, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate that picture for the same reason.
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
Though I get a small sense of satisfaction knowing it was from an epic trip.
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
The thing is
that no matter what they do, some part of it isn’t going to make sense. Why (re)introduce an extra layer of complexity into an already confusing realignment by (re)naming the divisions and conferences after people? Regional names are here to stay, no matter how much hockey people love their history. They will appeal to more people, be easier to explain, and annoy the fewest curmudgeons. (I mean it’s not like the old divisional boundaries are going to be the same; why name them the same?)
Regardless of what the names are, someone’s gonna get upset and at least one team is going to be in a division that it makes very little sense for them to be in.
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by John Fontana on Jul 14, 2011 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
And sometimes even with the status quo.
"[The Lightning] are uncanny. When they want to get a goal, it's like they just snap their fingers or hit a button. They just dial it up. You can see it. It's like they flip a switch. When they are down, it's just like they think, 'we know we are going to score.' I don't know what it is, it leaves [the opposition] flabbergasted." - Mike Knuble, 3 May 2011
how about
National, and American…wait, that’s not right
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And Toronto is in the American League.
Makes sense, right? Right?!
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by toppleprone on Jun 7, 2011 9:43 PM EDT

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