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Question of the Week: What are Your Expectations of the Lightning in the 2011-12 Season?

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Hockey season is upon us once again, Lightning fans.  The team reports for training camp Friday, September 16th and next Wednesday, September 21st is a pre-season game against the St. Louis Blues in Orlando.  The Lightning have set the bar very high after last season; I think it's safe to say they exceeded the expectations of most of their fans, yours truly included.

So, my question to the Raw Charge staffers for this week? A simple question with not so simple answers.  What are your expectations of the Lightning in the 2011-12 season?  How about you Lightning fans?  How do you think the Bolts will fare in this upcoming season?  

We know about the players that left, the ones that were signed and the ones that decided to stick around, but this is a new year.  The Lightning should be better equipped to handle hockey under coach Guy Boucher's system after having a season to play it and an off-season to digest it.  But there has also been time for teams to get used to the system and maybe come up with a counter.  So, what do we think?  Raw Charge answers coming up after the break.

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Adam Vingan - Staff Writer / Kings of Leonsis

If the Tampa Bay Lightning proved one thing last season by finishing just one win short of a Stanley Cup Final berth, it's that they have officially returned as one of the NHL's best teams. The Lightning have everything a hockey team needs to be competitive - a fantastic core made up of youth, experience, grit and finesse. The core of Steven Stamkos, Martin St. Louis and Vincent Lecavalier could arguably be the best leaguewide and support players like Steve Downie, Ryan Malone, Teddy Purcell and Nate Thompson provide the intangibles.

With all of that said (and I am sure to receive plenty of criticism for my "homerism"), I do not think that the Lightning are better than the Washington Capitals. While the Lightning are essentially the same team that swept the Caps out of the Eastern Conference Semifinals, Washington reloaded in a big way, adding five players (Troy Brouwer, Jeff Halpern, Joel Ward, Roman Hamrlik and Tomas Vokoun) who will all surely make an immediate impact. Plus, with the "Young Guns" - Alex Ovechkin, Nicklas Backstrom, Alexander Semin and Mike Green - coming off of career-worst years, the Caps will be out for blood. Good thing their jerseys are already red.

I see the Lightning taking a similar trajectory as they did last season: starting off strong, embroiled in a tight race in the Southeast Division and staying competitive for all 82 games. But keep the fourth or fifth seed warm for Tampa Bay, because they will finish second in the Southeast Division. Yet, that same placement during last season's playoffs didn't seem to hurt.

 

Cassie McClellan - Managing Editor Raw Charge

Realistically, I think that the Lightning will improve their regular season record from last season, but not do as well in playoffs.  

They'll play better during the regular season because they'll have had a full year to have worked with head coach Guy Boucher's system and and offseason to process his philosophy. Hockey is a reactionary sport, for the most part, and the more you have to think about it the less well you do. So the Lightning as a team should be able to do what Boucher expects them to do without thinking about it. It wouldn't surprise me if the Lightning ended up in 3rd or 4th place in the Eastern Conference to finish the season.  

The reason why I don't think they'll get as far in playoffs this coming season - at this point, seven or eight months out, I think they'll probably fall out in the second round - is because other teams will also have had a full year to break down Boucher's system. That won't necessarily mean a lot during the regular season, as every team has to prepare for 29 other teams to play so there won't be so much focus on that for opponents. But during the playoffs, teams will be ready for them.  

 Add to the fact that there's always copycats when it comes to a successful team, and...well, it could make for interesting games this year.

 

Matt Amos - Staff Writer / Don't Trade Vinny

My expectations?  After 19 flipping seasons, or however long it's been, even with the beautiful things we have in place, I don't allow myself to expect anything with this team anymore in regard to regular season success.  

That being said, there are a few things I anticipate:

- Every damn time I go to use the bathroom during a game this season, I'll hear one of those commercials where Dave Mishkin screams "SCORE," run out of the bathroom with my pants down, fall, then cuss at myself for falling for it AGAIN.

- Phil Esposito will talk about something, and less than three seconds into his explanation, I'll have no idea what he's talking about anymore.  And be laughing hysterically.

- Marty St. Louis will be ranked something ignorant like the 7th overall right winger behind Ilya Kovalchuk to start the season, then be in talks for the Hart Trophy.

- Mattias Ohlund will turn the puck over.

- Some Lightning fan will beg and plead for Vinny Lecavalier to be traded because he's "worthless" even though no person in their right mind would trade for something with 'no worth,' and continue some sort of circular logic but never really come up with any real argument worth listening to.

- See above point and multiply it by elventy billion.

- The Lightning will win the Stanley freaking Cup.  

 

Nolan Whyte - Staff Writer / Frozen Sheets of Hockey

My expectations? For them? Hell, I don't know. I'm too close to the situation. I've let my emotions get involved. They'll go out there and either absolutely rip up the league, or maybe new flaws will creep into view. Maybe we'll see a bunch of new career highs, or maybe the team will be decimated by injuries. It's so hard to say, and I've been notoriously bad at making predictions. I remember writing that the Lightning were a lock to win the Cup, back in 1995. Umm... good guess.  

So instead of making half-baked, pie-in-the-sky predictions (103 points, fourth seed in the East. Home ice in the playoffs. Book it.), I'll instead give you my expectations for myself as a fan this season. I expect to get really high (emotionally) if the team starts with even a brief winning streak. I expect to have better posture and self-esteem following big wins over strong rivals. I expect the world to become a hopeless, gloomy place if the team goes into an extended winless skid. I expect to say horrible things about people I don't know at all, simply because they play a game for a team that I don't like. I expect to write blog posts to express all of my hopes, fears and frustrations, and I will for the hundredth time realize that it is stupid to link my own feelings to a group of individuals who I have never met, playing games I have no influence over.  

But that's just me. I'm sure the rest of you are much more objective about this whole "sports fan" thing.

 

Dani Toth - Staff Writer / Benched Whale

Can we get a repeat of last season? Including the Pens playing dead in the playoffs but minus the cheesy country song about being a Lightning fan?

Realistically, my expectations for this year are simple: I expect them to make the playoffs.

 

Clark Brooks - Staff Writer / Ridiculously inconsistent trickle of consciousness

What's funny about pre-season sports predictions is that they're made based on a roster that won't change due to injuries, trades and other unforeseen circumstances, which never, ever happens. Meaning that even the best, most accurate predictions are wild guesses that somehow hit the mark in spite of still being wrong along the way. It's like having a wheel come off in a bike race and tumbling down a hill, somehow crossing the finish line ahead of the competition, standing up and saying "I meant to do that." What makes that hilarious is that there are people who get paid a lot of money to do it every year. 


That said, here, without being paid a lot of money and with little more than a faint prayer of being right, is what I expect from the 2011-12 Lightning: 1st place in the Southeast, number 1 seed in the Eastern Conference and a Stanley Cup victory (in four games) over the San Jose Sharks. Stone-cold, solid-gold, lead-pipe lock.    

 

John Fontana - Managing Editor

What I'm expecting for the Lightning this season is that they'll come in and start the season on October 7th, and they'll end the regular season sometime in April.  Between the two dates, they'll win some games, they'll lose some games.  I expect them to win a few more than they lose, but you never know what could happen to change that.

I expect some fans to be disappointed.  No, not because of something going drastically wrong (though it may), it's just someone always is disappointed by one thing or another.  Realistically or because of unrealistic expectations.  Disappointment always rears it's head, after all. 

I also expect some surprises, and some some excitement.  I expect some of these expectations to be excessively awesome and some only minorly so...  But above all else, I expect the Bolts to... (and this will knock your socks off) play 82 games this season.  41 at home 41 on the road.  They will also place between 1st and 15th in the Eastern Conference.  Where exactly?  Dunno.  But the fun is going to be finding out the answer.    

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Just kidding. I expect them to improve overall from last year. I hope they win the SE outright.

"The Revolution will be complete when the language is perfect"
- Smith in Orwell's 1984

by MTBoltFan on Sep 15, 2011 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think so it’s going to be a dogfight between TB/WAS/CAR

by capsfnva on Sep 15, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay.

That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it, just like I am entitled to disagreeing with it.

"The Revolution will be complete when the language is perfect"
- Smith in Orwell's 1984

by MTBoltFan on Sep 15, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

that’s fine let the season start

by capsfnva on Sep 15, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Playoff bound

I think they’ll be in about the same divisional spot as last year. Ovi seems driven to have a better year, hopefully he doesn’t give us fits. Pathers improved (on paper) and the Jets (think they are in our division) made good changes as well. So I see more competition division-wise.

IMO the bolts this year are very similar to last year. so I think they’ll step up in the playoffs again and surprise us with a repeat performance.

by Outrfaz on Sep 15, 2011 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Some predictions concerning the media

I expect that the media will call Roli “ageless” approximately 487 times, but say that he’s “aging” approximately 488 times. There will be 3 stories about his age every time he gets pulled or doesn’t start. Eventually, he will get tired of saying, “it’s just a number” and punch a reporter.

I expect Steve Downie to provide at least one big highlight goal and six highlight punches. Bonus points for a suspension. The word “reputation” must be found within 6 words of Downie’s name.

I expect Stamkos’s contract to be referenced in every single story about the team, whether the story is about Stamkos or not. Option B will be the puck to the face. References to his NHL12 cover are also acceptable.

I expect some “between the benches” analyst to patronizingly explain to northern viewers that of course Tampa Bay has excited fans. (I’m looking at you McGuire.)

I expect to see that Game 7 goal by Horton on a continuous loop at least until November 1. The loss will described as “devastating.”

The following words are to be required when writing about the Lightning: trap, 1-3-1, surprisingly, system, trap, scar, turnover, questions, trap, speed, Yzerman, legitimate, trap, and trap.

[4th or 5th in the East, 2nd in the division behind the Caps, at least as far as the 2nd round.]

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Sep 15, 2011 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Can’t forget that anytime Stamkos struggles even a little, it’s either going to be because he just signed a new contract or the NHL 12 cover guys are cursed.

"You don't have enough talent to win on talent alone." -Herb Brooks

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community. Follow me on Twitter: @dagmar27.

by Cassie McClellan on Sep 15, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bonus points for working in both the contract and the cover in the same sentence.

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Sep 15, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Triple-points awarded if mentioning his patented one-timer from the faceoff circle with his new contract and the NHL 12 cover.

"The Revolution will be complete when the language is perfect"
- Smith in Orwell's 1984

by MTBoltFan on Sep 15, 2011 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad he’s no longer 19. That could’ve been a quadruple score. Oh well.

"You don't have enough talent to win on talent alone." -Herb Brooks

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by Cassie McClellan on Sep 15, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

The food at St. Petersbug Times Forum, where the Lightning take the ice, led by an excitable coach with a mysterious scar and a young NHL12 coverboy with a new multi-million dollar contract that rewards his patented one-timer from the faceoff circle (and who just recently became old enough to drink legally), is really quite good.

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Sep 15, 2011 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

You win.

There are so many points awarded in that sentence, I’m not even going to bother counting them all.

Oh, wait… I win.

BE THE THUNDER!

"The Revolution will be complete when the language is perfect"
- Smith in Orwell's 1984

by MTBoltFan on Sep 15, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, you win. :)

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Sep 15, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would rather TB finishes as a 2/3 seed and the caps 4/5

by capsfnva on Sep 15, 2011 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and Adam, take it from a Preds fan, Joel Ward will not “have an immediate impact” unless you can plunk him in front of the net and leave him there. Unless you’re talking about his impact on the team’s budget for sticks.

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Sep 15, 2011 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Joel Ward channeling his inner Sean Avery. That could be funny.

"The Revolution will be complete when the language is perfect"
- Smith in Orwell's 1984

by MTBoltFan on Sep 15, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s going to be a 3 way dogfight between CAR/WASH/TB. Fl and Winnipeg are a joke

by capsfnva on Sep 15, 2011 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Probably, and that definitely doesn’t guarantee that the Caps will come out on top. Still, ought to be some good games played. That’s never a bad thing.

"You don't have enough talent to win on talent alone." -Herb Brooks

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community. Follow me on Twitter: @dagmar27.

by Cassie McClellan on Sep 15, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I would agree with you on the guarantee thing. Personally, I wouldn’t mind a 3 or 4 seed. Look where finishing 1st has gotten the Caps the last 2 years

by capsfnva on Sep 15, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

CAustin the Caps picked him up not the lighting

by capsfnva on Sep 15, 2011 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Who?

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Sep 15, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Washington Capitals

by capsfnva on Sep 15, 2011 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

It would be easier to follow your comments if you click on “reply” to comments you’re, you know, replying to…

Just a suggestion.

"The Revolution will be complete when the language is perfect"
- Smith in Orwell's 1984

by MTBoltFan on Sep 15, 2011 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry I will do that going forward

by capsfnva on Sep 15, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you mean Ward? I was replying to a comment by Adam at Kings of Leonsis, a Caps blog,

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Sep 15, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adam’s also our Norfolk Admirals guy. :o)

"You don't have enough talent to win on talent alone." -Herb Brooks

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community. Follow me on Twitter: @dagmar27.

by Cassie McClellan on Sep 15, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tell him I said, “Video, please.” (Esp of the goalies.) Thankyouverymuch. :)

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Sep 15, 2011 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Clare was replying to him because he seemed to be honking the Caps horn, though.

Dwayne Roloson: "You damn [insert team name here]! GET OFF MY LAWN!!"

by Tina Robinson on Sep 15, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

And because I think the expectations that have been built up about Joel Ward are unrealistic. I like him and I feel like he’s getting set up to fail. He’s great at being a nuisance and can make other players a little better. He does things that don’t show up on score sheets but he actually matched his regular season output in a single playoff series. If you’re expecting something to justify that contract, you’re not gonna get it.

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
Part Predator, part Lightning.

by CAustin on Sep 15, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

He can’t help it. He’s the Caps guy for SB Nation DC. Most Norfolk Admirals fans are also Caps fans due to the geography. That’s just how it is. JP from Japers’ Rink recommended him to us. :o)

"You don't have enough talent to win on talent alone." -Herb Brooks

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community. Follow me on Twitter: @dagmar27.

by Cassie McClellan on Sep 15, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes Ward was I didn’t know Adam was @ kings of Lensis

by capsfnva on Sep 15, 2011 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes. Fixed. The first game between the Lightning and Blues is the 20th. Second game the following night.

Dwayne Roloson: "You damn [insert team name here]! GET OFF MY LAWN!!"

by Tina Robinson on Sep 15, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even though, Like Highlander..In the end, There can be only ONE

Still have to expect the same, from both my teams, every year.. Absolute Domination!! Nothing less will suffice.

Thoughts out to the friends and family of those involved with the most tragic off season in hockey history. Including Red Wings.. Rusty, Beast & Stefan Liv. R.I.P.

by Let's JOE WINGS-BOLTS on Sep 16, 2011 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I think we'll be competitive, could win the division.

Seems like the team came together at the right time last year and really started to have that special feel. Even though we lost some guys during the off season, I believe they’ll build off the success from the playoffs and make a very strong push.

"I'd run over my mother to win the Super Bowl." - Russ Grimm

by bucnut1 on Sep 16, 2011 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

I think it's entirely possible, if not likely, that this team may be better and not have the same playoff result

Being one of the last three teams standing in the NHL, in any given season, is a very tough accomplishment to repeat, let alone improve on. Given Vancouver’s total ineptitude in the Cup Final last year, it’s going to be a perpetual annoyance to wonder just how close the Bolts were to winning the Cup.

Realistically, I had them losing to the Caps in the 2nd round last year. That series, as it turned out, was really a remarkable bit of everything going right for one team and wrong for the other – in the first three games, the Lightning had one goal in each that was representative of good fortune (this is not a dis-credit in the least – as the old hockey axiom goes, good things happen when you put the puck on net).

Washington is probably better all-around coming into this season than they were last year. But that’s not what matters – can they finally perform well when it matters? I think paper-wise the Caps are better again than Tampa, and this might come to the fore in the regular season – but if these two meet again in the playoffs, I really have to idea what to expect from Washington.

That said, I think Boston and Pittsburgh, provided the return to health of Crosby and Malkin, are the top teams to beat in the East. We’ll see how this 2011-12 Tampa Bay club matches up to those teams in due time.

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by FloridaownsFSU on Sep 16, 2011 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

The Bruins are statistically much younger. With the retirement of Recchi, the average age of the players has dropped from 45.2 to 27.8 years.

#madeupstats

"The Revolution will be complete when the language is perfect"
- Smith in Orwell's 1984

by MTBoltFan on Sep 17, 2011 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like our chances this season

I think we start out on a stronger base for many reasons. A year of the system under their belts. Brewer and Roloson from the start of the season. Vinny finally healthy and seemingly motivated again. Overall our defense is much better, though our depth is desperately thin after losing Jones, Lundin and Smaby with the likely first callups in the event of an injury being Vernace and Petiot. It’s highly unlikely that Stankos can duplicate his start from last season so the 3rd and 4th liners will have to chip in more. I like the speed that Shannon and Pyatt bring and I think that Bergy won’t be missed during the regular season, but it’s probably unrealistic to expect anyone to duplicate his playoff heroics. It will be interesting to see how Boucher forms his lines during the pre-season games. I’m itching to see Tyrell-Moore-Shannon on the same line. I feel we’ll be neck and neck with Washington until the end of the regular season. In fact the winner of our division could be the #1 overall seed in the east.

Don in St Pete

by Don in St Pete on Sep 18, 2011 7:47 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree, organizational depth is a serious concern, in both the forward lines and the d-men. Stevie Y knows it too, and I would not be surprised to see him take immediate steps to help with the problem, but ultimately it’s going to be a long term fix. It takes years to build up the minors, and Yzerman has repeatedly said he will not trade the future for the now. His training under Ken Holland will stand him in good stead for the long haul, I do believe.

Dwayne Roloson: "You damn [insert team name here]! GET OFF MY LAWN!!"

by Tina Robinson on Sep 19, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

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