Tuesdays with Dani: Post-ASG Links
by Dani Toth on Jan 31, 2012 11:31 AM EST
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PrintIt's been a week without hockey. I'm not sure how you got through it, but personally I watched hours upon hours of glorious tennis, but there was still this nagging feeling of something missing.
If you did catch the skills competition, perhaps you caught Steven Stamkos going three for three on the shootout elimination challenge to win the event. Since he has gone 0-for-10 during the shootout the past two seasons, it should make you say "Stammer, why can't we see this more often?"
Here are your links for the week:
Your Lightning links:
- Stamkos is one of the players trying out the new Bauer Re-Akt helmet that is designed to reduce concussions. Stamkos and Claude Giroux talk about how players are taking a more active interest into their own safety (USA Today)
- Brett Connolly has been struggling since returning from WJC's (The Bolts Independent)
- Former Lightning owner Len Barrie gets evicted out of his $14 million house (Globe and Mail)
- Andrew Johnson of The Hockey Writers wonders if the Lightning and Red Wings could be trade partners. Guess it took him a far leap to make this connection huh?
- Not to take away from his shootout goal scoring at the ASG, but I have an issue with Stamkos' hair (Lightning Hockey Blog)
- Carrie Selivanov, daughter of Phil Esposito has died after long illness. She was married to former Lightning player Alex Selivanov (TBO.com)
- Former Lightning goalie Karri Ramo scores a brutal own goal in a KHL game (Puck Daddy)
The rest of your links after the jump...
Your links from around the NHL:
- Bruce Arthur on how Sidney Crosby's neck injury bring forth more questions (National Post)
- Michael Farber on how Crosby's injury will be the biggest topic from here till the trade deadline (Sport Illustrated)
- Jo Innes gives us the medical low-down on the issue with Crosby's C1 and C2 vertebrae. As someone who works in the pseudo-medical field, I love this stuff (Backhand Shelf)
- The 2012 All-Star Game weekend marked the start of the battle between commissioner Gary Bettman and Donald Fehr (NHLPA) regarding the next NHL Collective Bargaining Agreement (National Post)
- Elliotte Friedman's 30 Thoughts: Crosby's recovery plight and various gems from the All-Star game
- Daniel Wagner writes this article on Cody Hodgson and his mid-level icetime on the Vancouver Sun blog Pass it to Bulis
- ...Then Cody Hodgson's agent, Ritch Winter, responds by penning this essay about hockey media. I love the Ayn Rand basis of his argument and he brings up some legit points, but also makes a mistake in saying that Pass it to Bulis is penned by reporters when it fact it's a blog, a very humorous blog most times. (Agents of Change)
- ......Then Daniel Wagner responds to Ritch Winter's post (Pass it to Bulis)
- Seth Rorabaugh looks at five players of the Pens who have been injured and " there have been some peculiar circumstances in how they were treated or how they were publicly reported by the team" (Empty Netters)
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Tony PlushNyjer Morgan will skate with the Sharks tomorrow during the morning practice (Puck Daddy) - The Puck Huffers comments on the ASG glam shots taken of the players in which we are confirmed that Jordan Eberle has a perpetual case of bedroom eyes
- Is Mason Raymond on the trading block? Ask any Canucks fan, and over half will say yes (The Fourth Period)
- The ups and downs that the San Jose Sharks has had is not hurting Sharks coach Todd McLellan's job security. He doesn't buy sudden coaching changes saying "If a team is taking that approach, then they shouldn't hire the guy in the first place," he said. "I wouldn't have married my wife if I knew I was going to divorce her eventually, and I wouldn't hire staff if I knew I was going to have to release them at some point. That makes no sense." (Mercury News)
- USA Hockey's membership has grown significantly in Southern states where there are NHL teams. "More people have an opportunity to get on the ice, fall in love with the game and become fans," (Yahoo)
- Jesse Spector on John Tortorella having earned his honor as one of the coaches at the All-Star Game (Sporting News)
- I'm loving Ellen Etchingham's History Lessons: The point of the All-Star Game (Backhand Shelf)
Video of the week: Joey the Junior Reporter interviews players before the ASG competition
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I think some press-box time for Connolly would fair well. Kid has what it takes, just missing some of the little things. Gripping the stick tight when shooting, stick on the ice in front of the net, I’ve noticed a few times this year when Connolly is in front of the net where it seems has has froze up or tried to shoot and fanned on it. I’m not trying to harp on the kid because he is looking great, but to get results he needs to fix the little things. A little time in the press-box can do a lot of good (aka the article; Tyler Seguin).
"We're fighting, You can't say we weren't fighting." - Guy Boucher after Tampa Bay Lightning loses third-period lead again in 4-2 defeat at Ottawa Senators.
This article on Guy Boucher just came out
And it sheds a lot of light on some of the things we’ve talked about at Raw Charge in the past two months or so.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=614521&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
"You don’t motivate people; you activate something in them that already exists." -Guy Boucher
Can't Have Your Cake And Eat It Too
First and foremost, I am solidly behind the movement to recognize bloggers as bona fide reporters. Secondly, I’ve not read Winters’ response.
That out of the way, if “Pass It Too Bulis” does deserve the nom d’guerre of “media,” then they need to act and handle themselves accordingly. I assumed Winter’s recognition of the “media” status would have been seen as honorific and legitmizing the efforts of “Pass It To Bulis.” Bloggers of news sites are clammoring for recognition of the title “media” and/or “reporters.” To label them something else is detrimental to the movement.
Additionally, if they’re maintaining their “humor only” meme, they need to come out as such, for in my opinion, to play both sides does the “bloggers as media” movement a disservice.
"Freedom is the freedom to say two plus two equals four. If that is granted all else will follow."
- Smith in Orwell's 1984
Wagner’s response on Backhand Shelf was basically, “yeah I screwed up because I was thinking of myself like an independent, non-mainstream writer who wouldn’t ever have access anyway. I’m going to have to do it differently from now on.”
To me there are other ethics questions that he didn’t address in that article (I haven’t read the PITB article yet). I don’t think that bloggers really consider themselves media first. I think that most of them (myself included) consider themselves fans first. Should sports reporters (and, by extension, bloggers with standards) be asked to be impartial? Lots aren’t. Do/should they have loyalty to the team or the players or the fans or to some abstract ideal of the Truth? Given that there are a lot of writers who have zero access to the franchise in any capacity, how should they be asked to have the same standards as beat reporters from established media outlets?
It’s a complicated issue and I’m glad he brought it up.
R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
"You don’t motivate people; you activate something in them that already exists." -Guy Boucher
But bloggers everywhere—not all, but the ones interested in actual news—are wanting to be recognized as legitimate media. The fact that PITB is often on the Vancouver paper’s website further perpetuates the idea of PITB being recognized as media. PITB either needs to embrace fully the “media” aspect of blogging, or put a disclaimer on the blog that makes it clear to the reader what is to follow.
"Freedom is the freedom to say two plus two equals four. If that is granted all else will follow."
- Smith in Orwell's 1984
I beg to differ….as a blogger, I don’t necessarily want to be known as legitimate media. Honest. I am very happy to just make comments on news articles that reporters write.
As for PITB they got picked up by the Vancouver Sun as part of a feature blog for the paper because they draw in hits. Both the two local papers here in Vancouver (Vancouver Sun and The Province) both have in house bloggers. PITB is one, The Province has Legion of Blog as theirs (used to be Kurtenblog). They weren’t hired as media, though they get exposure since they are linked through the paper website
I know not all bloggers, Dani…hence my lead-in:
But bloggers everywhere—not all, but the ones interested in actual news
All I’m saying is if that’s the case (of PITB not written by “media”), the paper needs to install a disclaimer stating as such, or else more people are going to think less of the Sun and its reporters if more instances like this emerge.
Furthermore, this (and any related) issue could do damage to the “bloggers as media” movement—that’s perhaps a more concise way of saying what I’m trying to say. :-)
"Freedom is the freedom to say two plus two equals four. If that is granted all else will follow."
- Smith in Orwell's 1984
It’s not that clear cut to me. I don’t see the distinction between “media” (by which I assume you mean folks professionally writing or producing broadcast content) and “blogging” as being that clear. PITB does a lot of humor and sarcasm, but they do a lot of other things, too. This article that sparked the controversy was in no way a humorous article.
I don’t think that they ought to have to choose between “blogging” and “news.” I think that “new media” (aka the internet) allows for a site to do both. The question as I understood it from reading the original Wagner article. the agent’s response, and Wagner’s article on BS was that he proposed a theory about events in Vancouver and published that theory (like a blogger would) without calling anyone to get their quotes. It wasn’t that he didn’t think they’d have something worth saying but that he wasn’t used to having anyone be willing to talk to him. He thought of himself as an outsider.
I do think that there are questions raised about what bloggers do and how they do it, but there really isn’t a sharp distinction between what PITB does and what someone like Eliotte Friedman or Bob Mckenzie or even our own beat reporters in the Tampa are do. PITB does have the latitude to be silly where Friedman (or other mainstream media guys) may not, but that’s not all they do. And as long as Bruce Garrioch is writing for a newspaper, and Ken Campbell is making up crap at The Hockey News, and so on, the line between blogging and reporting is going to be blurry.
R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
"You don’t motivate people; you activate something in them that already exists." -Guy Boucher
So if a site can do both, let me give you a hypothetical situation.
If I run a blog, and am a credentialled reporter through that blog, what are my readers to think if I run a bit of sarcasm or satire without disclosing the humorous intent at the outset of the article? I’ll tell you what would happen: my readers would take that as a serious article, and call for me to be accountable—to say nothing of my reputation as a journalist being damaged.
PITB needs to make it clear to everyone they aren’t related to the paper—I didn’t realize that, and certainly thought the Vancouver Sun hosting of the blog made it a legitimate news outlet.
"Freedom is the freedom to say two plus two equals four. If that is granted all else will follow."
- Smith in Orwell's 1984
If you post a sarcastic article that people can’t tell is a sarcastic article, you have issues getting your sarcasm across. Puck Daddy is a great example of what I’m talking about. They do both, they are credentialed and respected reporters, they rarely get their signals crossed on whether they’re joking or serious, and if they do, readers set folks straight real fast. It’s very possible to do both and I’ve always found PITB to manage that very well. I don’t think they need to warn people to think before they read. And like I say, that sort of warning is irrelevant to this dust-up anyway, since it wasn’t a sarcastic article.
And FWIW, some people don’t know that the Onion isn’t a straight news organization.
R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
"You don’t motivate people; you activate something in them that already exists." -Guy Boucher
I know all too personally the problems involved with internet/email sarcasm and misunderstanding thereof—there are times I’ve had problems getting my sarcasm across even while posting here on Raw Charge.
It’s a problem on the rise with the increase in nonpersonal interactions brought on by SNS and blog use, and one any news organization needs to handle delicately.
Don’t know if you intended this, but I for one didn’t know PITB wasn’t a Sun column. Sure, I knew it was humorous (well, that was the intent, any way), but the hosting of the blog by the Sun lends implied consent and approval by the Sun. Who else gets consent and approval from a paper other than media?
The relationship (or lack thereof) needs to be disclosed up front. That’s what the disclaimer needs to state—not necessarily the sarcastic or humorous content (that was just an example).
"Freedom is the freedom to say two plus two equals four. If that is granted all else will follow."
- Smith in Orwell's 1984
My problem with this that “the relationship” is so undefined that it’s really not clear what it means. The banner on every page of PITB identifies it as a “blog” but that means so many different things to so many different people. Nowhere did Wagner claim to be a reporter, but despite him outright calling himself a blogger, people assumed he was a reporter.
The point is that no one knows what the relationship really is or how it affects his work, not even the guy writing the article. There’s not a whole lot a statement at the top of the page is going to do to rectify that.
R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
"You don’t motivate people; you activate something in them that already exists." -Guy Boucher
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