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Game 51: Florida Panthers at Tampa Bay Lightning

The Tampa Bay Lightning beat the Florida Panthers in their last regular season meeting by a score of 6-3.

The game really revolved around four players for the Lightning: Martin St. Louis, Vincent Lecavalier, Steven Stamkos, Nate Thompson, and Victor Hedman. They took care of a lot of the playmaking, shots, goals, and assists. They had help, naturally, but those are the guys who had the biggest impact.

The player of the night was St. Louis. Not only did he score the game-tying goal, but it was also his 900th game in the NHL. The past 831 games have been exclusively with the Lightning, as his first 69 NHL games had been with the Calgary Flames. Little did they know what they were losing at the time.

St. Louis ended up with a hat trick on the night, which underscores a point. Not only top off his longevity, but also to point out that he's nowhere near done playing. Looks like he may be following in the footsteps of a few other notable players who played well into their 40s. But at only 36 years old, that's still a ways off.

Star-divide

The guy who helped set up all three of St. Louis's goals was Lecavalier. Who also scored a sweet goal unassisted on his only shot of the night. And he had won seven of 12 of his faceoffs (58% winning percentage) as well. Vinny was a force to be reckoned with the entire game - he didn't let up once, and played a very disciplined game.

Stamkos had a goal of his own, assisted on one of St. Louis's goals, and had six shots on goal for the night. The first Lightning goal was scored by Thompson, also unassisted, had three blocked shots, and he'd won six of seven faceoffs (86%) for the night. Both players had very consistently good nights.

As for Hedman, he was also a dominant player. He had some great defensive plays, and offensive breakouts. He had five shots on goal and five blocked shots - leading all players on the ice in blocked shots on the night. Apparently, watching games while having to sit out while he was recovering from a concussion did him some good, because a lot of the little mental mistakes he was making earlier in the season have almost disappeared since he's come back.

Overall, the team played like they did last season. Everyone's contributing, the star players on the team are being the star players, the defense is playing defense (mostly), the leaders are leading, and they're sticking to playing their game. It's great to see, frankly. There still isn't a great chance that they'll make it into playoffs, but they're making it more believable, at least. And even if they don't, seeing them pull it together to make a serious run will take some of the sting out of this season.

I think I can speak for the fans when I say that, right now, everyone's pretty damned proud of this team for trying to make some very positive things happen.

Their next game is Tuesday, 7 February, against the Los Angeles Kings. Game time is the regular 7:30 pm ET. If you aren't attending the game, then please stop by and keep us company. The Raw Charge game thread will be available at 7 pm.

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Just want to say

I was the one who called this hat-trick. YES.

Also a fan of the Rays and Lightning.
There is no offseason.
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by Tigers&WingsFan on Feb 4, 2012 10:27 PM EST reply actions  

You need to do that more often! :oD

"You don't have enough talent to win on talent alone." -Herb Brooks

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by Cassie McClellan on Feb 4, 2012 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

would you also like me to pick 6 lotto numbers? :)

Also a fan of the Rays and Lightning.
There is no offseason.
My icon was drawn by Samara Pearlstein, talented artist/blogger at Roar of the Tigers.

by Tigers&WingsFan on Feb 5, 2012 8:42 AM EST up reply actions  

If I played the lottery, I’d totally ask you to. ;o)

"You don't have enough talent to win on talent alone." -Herb Brooks

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by Cassie McClellan on Feb 5, 2012 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

say what?

“I know the playoffs are not going to happen, but as a fan, I am enjoying the quality hockey. But, at the end of the day, I say bring on next season.” – Way to be positive. This team is finally getting healthy and playing to there potential. Along with a favorable schedule and 31 games remaining, there’s no doubt they can make up 8 points.

by berlin on Feb 4, 2012 11:03 PM EST reply actions  

If that’s addressed to me, I never wrote that. However, their chances are making playoffs are still really, really slim. A lot would have to go right for the Lightning – and a lot would have to go wrong for everyone else in the conference – for it to happen. And the Lightning haven’t had the smoothest of seasons so far.

"You don't have enough talent to win on talent alone." -Herb Brooks

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by Cassie McClellan on Feb 4, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Erlendsson tweeted that with this win, the chances of making the playoffs is 8.4%. That says nothing about being able to beat whichever team (for instance, BOS/NYR/PHI) is in first place. It’s not impossible, but it’s not even close to “no doubt.”

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
"You don’t motivate people; you activate something in them that already exists." -Guy Boucher
" I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber

by CAustin on Feb 5, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

"no doubt" is waaaaaaaay strong

you know how many teams have made up 8 points in 30 games to make the playoffs? Since we went to the 3-point OT structure? Zero. Ever.

The closest:

*05-06 Sharks started 24-20-8, FIVE points out of a playoff spot. They finished 20-9-1 and grabbed an 5 seed (they beat Nashville 4-1 in round one before being bounced in round two by eight-seeded Edmonton 4-2)
*06-07 Rangers started 25-24-4, FOUR points out of a playoff spot. They finished 17-6-6 and grabbed an 6 seed (they beat Atlanta 4-0 in the first round before losing 4-2 in the second to first-seeded Buffalo)
*08-09 Blues started 21-24-6, SIX points out of a playoff spot. They finished 20-7-4 and grabbed a 6 seed. (they were bounced 4-0 by Vancouver in the first round). The Blues were interestingly 15th place in the West on February 5, 2009. Things were really bunched up that year. The difference between 5th and 15th (eleven teams) on February 5 was eight points

No one else has come back from more than 3 points out with 30 games left.

The kind of run we’ll need to get into contention is precedented, but rare. But a run from a team as far back as we are to get all the way back into the playoffs. . . actually never happened. I really, really hope we’re the first, but my priority right now (as indicated in what you quoted, which I didn’t write but mostly agree with) is getting the roster in good shape long-term. Our chances of that are a lot better than 8%.

If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
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by Incipient_Senescence on Feb 5, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Of course, thanks to point inflation

no one ever remembers that the ‘09-’10 Red Wings were 27-33 (err, 27-21-12) 60 games into the season before rallying for a solid #5 seed.

The reason why? They held a playoff spot in spite of that wretched record.

Of note, that same season, I’m pretty sure Boston was 31-39 at some point before finishing 9-4 to clinch a playoff spot, but that’s because the Eastern Conference sucked that year. And given the way New Jersey and Toronto don’t seem to lose anymore, the lower spots are going to be hard to attain. That, and the Lightning’s 0-4 record against those teams (0-6 including #6 Ottawa, who is free-falling right now) makes their task all the more tougher.

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by FloridaownsFSU on Feb 5, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

the question isn’t just how many wins did team A get with 30 games left. It’s also, how much ground did they gain on other teams. For TB to get into the playoffs, they not only have to win much, much more than they have so far this season, but other teams ahead of them have to lose more than they have this season. And every three point game played by an EC team stretches that out even further.

In other words, you can’t just look at Team A came back from a below .500 win-loss record to make the playoffs. You have to look at whether they passed other teams in the standings.

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
"You don’t motivate people; you activate something in them that already exists." -Guy Boucher
" I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber

by CAustin on Feb 5, 2012 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

this

which is why I’m looking at the deficit compared to the 8th seed instead of overall record. Plenty of teams with worse overall records than ours have made the playoffs, but they’ve had the benefit of top-heavy conferences with 4 good teams and 11 bad ones. Or something like that.

If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
Rocky Top Talk

by Incipient_Senescence on Feb 5, 2012 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, wasn't disagreeing with the general notion

I’m hoping, and there’s still three aside with Washington and Winnipeg, plus a couple against Toronto and Ottawa, so if this team is going to play hard, then I’ll enjoy the ride, but it is a long-shot for certain at this point.

It does help, though, that this division sucks this year. Only Washington is over .500, and that’s with a mediocre 27-25 mark. All these teams are really, really bad this year, at least thus far.

Now on Twitter @Carcillo_

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by FloridaownsFSU on Feb 5, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Shannon

We have to throw some stick taps to Ryan Shannon tonight too. He was flying out there- drawing coverage low to open up Marty and V4, getting a couple nice shots and laying off some sweet passes. 2pts on the night not bad. That line was on fire tonight!

by Kevin Colber on Feb 4, 2012 11:33 PM EST reply actions  

I thought about him after I’d posted this – so thanks for bringing him up! He had a good game, too. Pretty much, they all did, really.

"You don't have enough talent to win on talent alone." -Herb Brooks

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by Cassie McClellan on Feb 4, 2012 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I really like Ryan Shannon. Glad to see him have a good game.

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
"You don’t motivate people; you activate something in them that already exists." -Guy Boucher
" I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber

by CAustin on Feb 5, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Games like that against the Panthers makes me sad he probably won’t be back next year. His speed—when used effectively—is a very dangerous asset for the opposition’s defense.

"Freedom is the freedom to say two plus two equals four. If that is granted all else will follow."
- Smith in Orwell's 1984

by MTBoltFan on Feb 5, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

he probably won’t be back next year.

:-(

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
"You don’t motivate people; you activate something in them that already exists." -Guy Boucher
" I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber

by CAustin on Feb 5, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

wooooo!!!!!

also, that’s five players

If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
Rocky Top Talk

by Incipient_Senescence on Feb 5, 2012 1:13 AM EST reply actions  

Crazy, ain’t it? :oD

"You don't have enough talent to win on talent alone." -Herb Brooks

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by Cassie McClellan on Feb 5, 2012 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

St. Louis's hat trick earned him 2nd star

on both Puck Daddy and NHL.com.

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
"You don’t motivate people; you activate something in them that already exists." -Guy Boucher
" I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber

by CAustin on Feb 5, 2012 9:33 AM EST reply actions  

2nd star? Who was first? More importantly, who voted for that?

"Freedom is the freedom to say two plus two equals four. If that is granted all else will follow."
- Smith in Orwell's 1984

by MTBoltFan on Feb 5, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Reimer with the 49-save shutout, iirc

And I don’t know about NHL.com, but I assume the Puck Daddy staff votes on theirs. And since it was Reimer’s 2nd straight shutout, I can’t really complain.

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
"You don’t motivate people; you activate something in them that already exists." -Guy Boucher
" I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber

by CAustin on Feb 5, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

since I wasn't around for the game thread yesterday:

If I cared more about my UNC side, I'd call myself "Tar Volon," and that'd be awesome.
Bolts, Canes, Preds (now in different conferences!). Canes mini-STH. Southern hockey solidarity
Rocky Top Talk

by Incipient_Senescence on Feb 5, 2012 10:33 AM EST reply actions  

"Overheard" ("over-read?") from the St Louis Game Time recap of the Preds game

Blues fans thinking they can trade for Marty.

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
"You don’t motivate people; you activate something in them that already exists." -Guy Boucher
" I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber

by CAustin on Feb 5, 2012 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

They so funny. :oD

"You don't have enough talent to win on talent alone." -Herb Brooks

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by Cassie McClellan on Feb 5, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

HAHAHHAHHAHHAHHA.

Following the Lightning from Rio Grande, Rio Grande do Sul, Brasil.
Let's. Go. BOLTS!

by Rafael Amarante on Feb 5, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm a Blues Fan

but even I don’t see that happening.

#pipedream

"Freedom is the freedom to say two plus two equals four. If that is granted all else will follow."
- Smith in Orwell's 1984

by MTBoltFan on Feb 5, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

The part that made me laugh

was that they seemed not to have any awareness of how unrealistic it was. I don’t blame them for wanting him.

R.I.P. Belak, Rypien, Boogaard, Lokomotiv.
"You don’t motivate people; you activate something in them that already exists." -Guy Boucher
" I saw it, I called it, I still don't believe it!"--Pete Weber

by CAustin on Feb 5, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Everyone in their right mind wants Marty on their team. But they all had their chance and they turned him down. Too bad for them.

"You don't have enough talent to win on talent alone." -Herb Brooks

Raw Charge, an SBN Tampa Bay Lightning community. Follow me on Twitter: @dagmar27.

by Cassie McClellan on Feb 6, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought Shannon was awesome

His speed along with Marty opened up the ice for Vinny. Unfortunately, they won’t be likely to get such a favorable matchup on most occasions. I see the return of Bergeron and Adam Hall as being a huge potential boost to the team. Hall because of his faceoff ability as a right hander and his work on the pk, and Bergeron as he could definitely help on the powerplay. Gilroys been a bit of a hit or miss the past week, but the forwards have put him in a tough spot a couple times. I thought Gervais and Mickelson ( especially ) play very well. Their speed and mobilty while still be capable of using the body is a distinct advantage. Brett Clark just seems to have run out of gas. 21-10 gets us to 93 points where the #8 seed qualified last year. It may take only 90 points to win the SE division unless Wash or Fla pick up their games.

Don in St Pete

by Don in St Pete on Feb 5, 2012 7:59 PM EST reply actions  

Thank you, Marty and Vinny

Thank you.

Following the Lightning from Rio Grande, Rio Grande do Sul, Brasil.
Let's. Go. BOLTS!

by Rafael Amarante on Feb 5, 2012 8:28 PM EST reply actions  

Score should haven been 8 or so to 1 or 2. The first Panther goal deflected off Kubina’s skate, and the Bolts had far more quality scoring chances than the Panthers.

Good game—now the team’s got to continue to play that way.

"Freedom is the freedom to say two plus two equals four. If that is granted all else will follow."
- Smith in Orwell's 1984

by MTBoltFan on Feb 5, 2012 10:18 PM EST reply actions  

Mark my words

Mikkelson will be a top 3 defenseman next year. This kid can really skate. Fluid and fast. He led one charge up the ice that resulted in an offside, but impressive nonetheless. A little more coaching, confidence and experience and this kid is going to be good. If you are ever at the game just focus in on his skating ability. Very few players on the ice can switch directions and gears like him. He is excellant at keeping his body in front of the forward.

by malapraxis on Feb 6, 2012 9:25 AM EST reply actions  

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